This may not work out the way I want it to, but I'm actually a little excited about these tech companies making a bunch of anti-consumer decisions all at once. So many mainstream users will be looking for alternatives, and it's going to provide a great opportunity for non-profit open source projects. It's already happening with the fediverse suddenly becoming a viable place for discussion in the last 1.5 years. After Windows Recall was announced, I've seen more people talking about switching to Linux than ever before. Part of me can't wait for unskippable Youtube ads.
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People often decry accelerationism, but the reality is that the slow-boiled frog is the one that sits and dies. Chipping away at freedoms, consumer protections, product benefits, etc is all less likely to spark backlash than when they drop sharply in a short time.
That doesn't mean you should help to make things worse, but it does mean that you may want to reconsider constantly mitigating every bad thing that others are doing, rather than letting them shoot themselves in the foot. When people are being hurt, help them. When people are being inconvenienced, let them get angry.
This looks like a very classical and well-known case of executives copying each other.
That other company is doing layoffs and seems fine? Reports the line going up? Let's do it, too!
The guys across the street are already implementing AI? Investors love it? Let do it, too! We may have taken a risk with blockchain, but this one is just sure to work better for us!
The big name is going for the money, predator-style, and they're still afloat? Finally, we can cash out, too!
We need Cory to coin a term for what comes after enhittification. Perhaps we can call it the Great Wipening, where we all stop paying to be treated like serfs and start taking back control of our content and data.
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After Windows Recall was announced, I've seen more people talking about switching to Linux than ever before.
I've been the Linux zealot in my friend group for years, and none of them have switched (they've dabbled on old laptops but never daily drove).
With Recall, a coworker I never would have expected reached out to me because he knows I'm a "Linux guy" and he was switching to Linux over it.
He's still daily driving pop_OS a month later.
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Of course they do. They want to keep control over monetization. They don't care about creators at all.
TL;DW: the ads will be in the video stream itself which will mess up timestamps, sponsor block uses timestamps to know when the ads are.
Seems to me that this will also break every other use case of specific times like direct linking to a timestamp of a video, right?
This sucks for so many. People use timestamps for content warnings or to help viewers avoid spoilers. Commenters use timestamps when talking about the content of the video. It's insane to change this once it's so ingrained in how people use the website.
It's also how content creators literally create chapters: put the time codes into the video description
That's a native feature of the platform
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Hopefully they'll realise it's a bigger breaking change than they wanted as part of this testing phase
You assume they give a fuck
Yeah I do. They still want to be able to sell their premium subscriptions and not every engineer working on the product is some soulless corpo. If they can break all adblockers without damaging their product they will, but if it fucks things up too much then they'll go back to the drawing board and try something else.
I'd imagine YouTube subtracts the ad length from posted timestamps when clicking a link containing one. But we are taking about Google, soooooo...
If Google can do that then hopefully sponsor block can too!
In the cat and mouse game, the cat can adjust tactics but the mice eventually figure out an alternative route. I'm sure they will find a way with this. Either that or a lot of people will just stop watching YouTube, I'd imagine.
A truly shocking number of people don't use any form of adblock. I doubt that driving off the adblock users will have a significant effect on viewership (and even if it does, why would Google care, it's not like we're making them money).
There's also plenty of people that do use adblock today, and would just put up with ads if it stopped working.
So the actual number of people that would simply stop using YouTube altogether is lower than the number of people that use adblock today.
And from YouTube's perspective, those people aren't contributing revenue anyways, and all they get is a little bit of usage data. Easy trade.
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It will end up being like FreeVee on Prime for anyone who's ever watched a movie or anything on there. They straight up randomly just inject ads in at random times, often not even during scene breaks. Characters are sometimes mid-sentence... Oh, and we're back to the volume of the ads being 2x louder than the movie itself because I guess that law Congress passed way back in the day only applied to cable and broadcast TV.
It makes it nearly unwatchable. So get ready for that experience.
All his stuff is on youtube. Why doesn't he upload to peertube? :/ It seems like he doesn't like youtube a lot but his content only exists there.
Because that's where the audience is. Peertube is deader than the lemmyverse. You are essentially making the silly "but yet you choose to live in society" argument.
Then publish on both!
Yeah right, we all know you have a single copy of digital items and you can either put it here or there, but not both. That's why NFTs were such a success! /s
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I mean we're sitting here on the lemmyverse having a conversation..
But yeah creators should upload to peertube but they won't get any meaningful viewership there. The only way to break the network affect stranglehold google/youtube has over video content on the internet is making sure that if you do produce that content it's available via other channels.
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You are essentially making the silly "but yet you choose to live in society" argument.
I don't think so. OP wasn't saying to stop uploading to YouTube, but to upload to alternate sites as well and maybe lead their audiences there by mentioning it in videos.
🙄 yeah, great talking with you
Just FYI the license in your comment doesn’t actually exist and the creative commons license it links to does not mention AI anywhere.
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Quick reminder that you are on Beehaw. There's only one rule here, and this sort of dismissive take does not adhere to it. Please find something substantive to dismiss.
What do you mean. He was rude. Am I supposed to continue engaging with that? I don't enjoy abuse.
By making that comment you did engage with it... Not commenting at all would have been disengaging...
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Monetization is one of the main problem of PeerTube, it's more expensive to make videos than to write threads, and while on YouTube/Odysee/Rumble content creators earn money, on peertube they often need to pay to instance operators to pay for hosting
User experience for peertube is not the best too, while in the most of the Fediverse for instance to connect with other instances a user just needs to follow someone on it, on peertube instance owner needs to add instances to the list to federate their content
Not PeerTube, but he is on Odysee/LBRY.
Why do you add that link to the end of every comment?
Maybe it's like those Facebook posts where you tell Mark Zuckerberg that he's not allowed to profit off your photos.
That's exactly what it is.
Harder to monetize on Peertube.
But his youtube is already monetized. Uploading it to peertube is just an extra action that could help with its popularity.
I find it funny that this is the first video where I'm consistently getting the "This helps us protect our community" and "Log in to confirm that you are not a bot" errors while using an alternative Frontend.
I'm sure it's just a random coincidence, but it is still funny to me.
And yet, despite everyone complaining, they know damn well no one is going to stop using it so they’ll continue to do whatever they want.
Maybe people should just…. Stop using YouTube. That or don’t complain when they fuck over the content creators and users of their platform.
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↑ painting :)
people really overestimate how many people use ad blockers and sponsorblock....
30% desktop, 15% mobile estimated in the US use ad blockers.
That is not insignificant by any means, even if it's overestimated.
I imagine the amount of people using sponsorblock specifically are much smaller.
https://sponsor.ajay.app/stats/
You're right, but I think it's fairly safe to assume that if one knows about sponsorblock, they're using an ad blocker too.
Of course, I was only saying few people used sponsor block compared to (any) general ad blocker.
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