Piss tier memes, lower than shitposts. Brain damaging stuff.
For those who don't know, the US systematically mutilates the genitals of baby boys and young boys.Sciences points to the foreskin being a protective and erogenous dual layered membrane.
It is not 'one side' pushing this. This is how the American people take their aggression out on males.
While I whole heartedly disagree with the practice of circumsizing babies. (babies can't consent therfore an unnecessary procedure is just flat out unethical) It's not really true to say science shows that the foreskin is erogenous or even that circumcision affects sexual pleasure.
There is a bit of conflicting data out there so there is still some debate over the fact but right now the data leans heavily toward there being little to no adverse affects on sexual pleasure. And in fact some anecdotal evidence actually seems to show that the opposite may be true; that circumsized penises may actually be more sensitive to sexual stimuli.
Again though, I can't stress enough how much I believe circumsicion is wrong.
Curious study. I personally only have my self as a test subject, so it's quite subjective, however I use the foreskin quite a bit for stimulation, not really as an erogenous zone, more of a way to slide it in, it also helps prevent lubricants from drying up, since without at least spit it just hurts. It's REALLY sensitive under there and fucking hurts when rubbed by just about anything else, if I didn't have foreskin, it would have to become significantly more numb before I could rejoin society. Actual sex might not be as affected, but masturbation as I know it would cease to be.
That's really interesting actually. Might be why there's reports of things being more sensitive after adult circumsion. You're removing a protective layer that's been covering that super sensitive part of you all your life. All of a sudden it's gone and now that part is exposed.
This is gonna be a silly anology but I wonder if it's anything like playing guitar. When you first start, your fingertips hurt a bunch but as you play you build up calluses in addition to the fingertips just becoming partially numb so it stops hurting as much.
Lol, could be xD
If I remember correctly, the top layers of the glans keratinize (in a similar way to your hands may form callouses) causing a long term loss in sensitivity. Adult circumcisions are probably more sensitive post op because the glans is left completely exposed when it was once covered and hasn't had the time to adapt. I'm uncircumcised and the thought of boxers brushing up against my bits while my heads' exposed sounds fucking awful haha
False. Educate yourself on the ridged band and frenulum
I mean. I provided an actual source for my statement with aggregated data supporting my point. You, however, have not.
Sounds like you need to be educated.
And also the frenulum is not the foreskin.
Propaganda and bad faith. Get out of here with your pseudoscience
Relevant post https://lemmy.world/comment/7949837
That was a rabbit hole of reading.
Correct!
I feel like the same people who are antiabortion are pro circumcision. This meme makes it sound like it’s the pro choice crowd are also the ones pushing circumcision, which is misleading no?
It is all coming from the Puritan ideology pushing the completely outdated and unrealistic idea that sexuality should be exclusively for reproduction. Circumcision is a way to discourage masturbation. This also means that they are against contraception, abortion being only the tip of the iceberg of what they would ban if they were even given the chance.
No matter how they're trying to dress it as it is obviously a religion-motivated movement and should not be allowed to force its views on the people. It pisses me off that through their ideological reasoning they have also decided to fight stem cell research. We could have cured so many diseases if it wasn't for these idiots.
Do you have a source on the circumcision being a tool to deter masturbation? I grew up understanding that it was yet one more thing that the Christians co-opted from the Jewish faith, and it was done because Christians wanted to cosplay gods chosen people.
Anecdotally, I’ve never heard a single person complain about masturbation difficulties due to being circumcised. I mean I guess if you performed the procedure at puberty it would be even more horrifying and traumatizing than doing it at birth, but I’m just not making the connection here.
I’ve never heard a single person complain about masturbation difficulties due to being circumcised
I've seen posts with people saying that if you're uncircumcised you can do it without lube. I don't know if it's true or not because I am circumcised and definitely can't. At least not for very long. If it's true I'd consider that a big enough drawback to complain about.
I (not circumsized) don't think the lube/non-lube thing is relevant that much. It works but lube is definitely still a good idea.
What I do think makes a difference is the missing sensitive skin though. The inside of the foreskin is very sensitive, much like the glans. And when you pull it back, that skin is on the outside of quite a bit of your shaft.
I can attest to it being true.
Not circumcised and I've never use lube or lotion. It always confused me why in me, myself, and Irene why he had lotion next to his bed and I didn't connect it with masterbation as I said I never used anything.
I know from someone who had to get circumcised at 18 for medical reasons that you do lose a good bit of sensitivity. Not saying that necessarily means that that's the reasoning. What's interesting though is that circumstances among Christians isnt really a thing in Europe. I wonder how it became so big in the US.
Somebody sourced supporting documentation that it was originally done to prevent masturbation. My thought process was that, from experience, jerking off still feels good regardless, and if you perform the procedure on an infant they’ll never know it could feel better, so where’s the deterrent?
I’m glad we’re still practicing genital mutilation in 2024 just because some guy from a time when we treated people with hacksaws and leeches said so though.
'Discouraging the act of male masturbation quickly became a “major reason why doctors, educationists and childcare experts sought to introduce widespread circumcision.”'
https://journals.troy.edu/index.php/test/article/download/386/302
This was the 1800s, and then after it was more of "this is just what we do now".
Thanks for that! I guess my parents and their religious “leadership” just invented reasoning for it after the fact in order to justify the practice without having to think about the why of it.
Yeah I don't entirely follow the logic here, but I think the idea is:
I don't know the poster in question, so it could also be "this argument, but ironically"
Instead of working together, we should both just give up!
Solid choice, no notes.
I don’t know where you live, if it’s in Europe maybe it’s different. In the US, I know many pro-choice people who have either gone the circumcision route for the own kids. For those who don’t want or have kids, quite a few have said they prefer cut guys. It’s still very much a normalized societal things in the US.
Yeah, in Europe (or in France at least), if you're circumcised you're either Muslim, Jewish or had a medical issue.
If I had a son he'd keep his foreskin until he can decide. I was there when they did my nephew's and fuck all of that.
Why the fuck is a postmenopausal women giving this presentation? Neither issue pertains to her.
(This is a commentary on a male-dominated supreme court overturning Roe v. Wade)
maybe... she was forced to give birth before her menopause. or maybe she just has empathy for her fellow women
We don't know what stance on this issue she has, if any
Why is that white person giving a presentation on racism? The issue doesn't pertain to them.