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[–] [email protected] 124 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

If I'm remembering right, wasn't this specifically developed to assist in helping to better identify victims of human trafficking?

Yep. Found it.

https://www.romper.com/p/a-man-made-app-that-shows-women-without-makeup-on-there-is-so-much-to-unpack-here-5480392

[–] [email protected] 66 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Boy that would seriously mess with the narrative of this comment section if that were the case

Edit: oh no

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It's been used by people for nefarious purposes, regardless of its original intent. Both perspectives are valid.

edit: sexist horseshit is not a valid perspective.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Of course the creator is going to tout the most morally upstanding use of his app. If it genuinely helps human trafficking victims, then that's another story, but from this quote it just seems like he has some vague hope about it.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago

A tech startup with vague likely unrealistic hopes? What are the chances?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (3 children)

wasn't this specifically developed to assist in helping to better identify victims of human trafficking?

The author of the article you linked doesn't seem to believe that.

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[–] [email protected] 117 points 4 months ago (5 children)

It's wild that hundreds of years ago, high society women would wake up to put on makeup. They'd literally never be seen without it. Waking up at crack ass morning, wear makeup, then make breakfast.

My wife and I went for a walk and she didn't even wear a bra.

Life is great.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

There are plenty of women who live like this now. It's a cultural thing, not a timeline thing. I had a roommate in college who would wake up before dawn to do her makeup so nobody would see her without it.

(Also high society women certainly didn't make their own breakfasts... well, ever, but especially not hundreds of years ago)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

And depending on the era, certainly in England, many high society people didn't get out of bed until 11am or midday.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I love when your wife doesn't wear a bra. It does make life great.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

We all love this guy's wife

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

hun, step outside, I need to see if I need to bring a jacket...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Why have so many people down voted this? Do they not get it, or do they just hate nipples?

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This doesn't look like a woman without makeup, it looks like a woman with makeup with a filter over her face.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yep, looks like it was fooled by the fake contour on her right cheek.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I know jack shit about photo editing, but did this person just de-saturate the colors? The eyes and hair look like they are less vivid. Even the background looks different., less dark and more blue?

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The real challenge is to use the app on somebody not wearing makeup.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Do it twice and every woman looks like Gollum.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That’s how you know it’s accurate. Same thing happens if you use makeup remover twice on bare skin.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Using the "makeup remover" app on your date one too many times and then...

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 4 months ago (13 children)

Please don't roast me here, but why is wanting to know what someone looks like without makeup such a bad thing? I've never even thought about it before, so please don't take this as advocating for it. It just doesn't immediately occur to me what the problem would be.

I get why it's gross to have an app to remove clothing, but makeup feels like a different category.

What about an app that changes or removes hair? Or one for sunglasses/jewelry?

Are they all gross in some way that I'm missing? Is it creepy to remove makeup from photos but not creepy to remove earrings?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago

On the surface it seems reasonable, but it tends to have misogynistic undertones, especially if said towards strangers.

It's like when the paparazzi publishes photos of celebrities with no makeup without their consent. If her makeup skills are good, she gets accused of "deceiving" people about her real age/looks. If her makeup skills are bad, she just gets called ugly.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It's kind of creepy to do anything to a photo without consent. I'm a dude with plugs, and it'd be a little off-putting if a stranger I didn't know digitally removed my ear rings to see what I'd look like.

This is how I present myself. You can see me without ear rings or makeup when I want you too.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Definitely thought you meant hair plugs at first, and that there was an app to give you male pattern baldness.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I like that you asked. While I don't hold a strong opinion on it, I think you could argue that it is about consent.

I will argue more strongly than I feel because I think it helps to understand the point. (Assuming the person wearing makeup is a woman)

If you don't know the woman, why do you care if she wears makeup and how she looks without? It seems like there isn't a legitimate reason for it without it being a toxic reason, like "look! she isn't prettier than me!" Vibe. Which is toxic for both people. Now it was a man who made the app. Now there is the hating of women for wearing makeup reasons but let's ignore those. (Case: Unknown feelings of the woman)

If you know the woman and you don't know how she looks without makeup, then that is clearly a decision made by the woman. Why do you have the right to expose her in a way that she doesn't want to be. I mean some women don't care if you see their tummies and others would rather die. Should you have the right to expose a woman's tummy? (Case: Implied decision to not show herself like that)

If you know the woman and you want to argue that you have a justified interest in how she looks without makeup because she is a potential Partner (if she is a partner, you probably know already anyway). You could easily argue that you have the same legitimate reason to see her naked but obviously you wouldn't think that it is a legitimate reason.

In other words, you shouldn't care and it is kinda toxic to care; you don't have consent to see them like it otherwise you would; you have no right to know.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 months ago (11 children)

It's not like we wear makeup as some devious plot to trick men and hide our real faces instead of you know, to look good for ourselves. Besides, I don't think I look that different without makeup, sometimes people just ask if I didn't sleep well last night if I don't.

Anyway, if people really cared that much to see their favorite actress (me) without makeup, would you be interested in getting a copy of "Barbie", now available on Blu-ray and select streaming services?

(and there's "The Wolf of Wall Street" for the naked part.)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Thanks, Margot Robbie. You are a pillor of Lemmy society!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

You're welcome, Agent641.

Also, that's esteemed Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie to you!

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Incel/redpill nonsense right here.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

I hate how they have taken that redpill term to make it all uncool instead of how cool it used to be in the Matrix.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As an older guy: It's the same picture.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (16 children)

Older guy here. I have noticed that now when I look a beautiful young women I feel envy rather than lust. My thoughts go to wishing I was young again rather than wishing I could "tap dat ass" or whatever. Realizing that made kinda sad, NGL.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (16 children)

I developed methods which can tell you what women think too. It's called Talking2M. It's fun, mostly 3d, open world scenarios, sometimes multiple choice answers ...

More details to come soon^tm^ with version 1,1b. Btw: Get a life!

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My wife almost never wears makeup. Basically only for things like job interviews.

And I don't like how she looks in makeup, so I'm fine with that.

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Classic app developer: Creates a problem for a solution.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

the app isn't for men in relationships...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (7 children)

I only wear a tiny bit of eyeliner, so checkmate men, what you get is what you see.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

the eye color change is suggesting women wear eyeball makeup?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Man, who would've thought they look like they don't have make-up on when they dom't have make-up on.

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