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[–] [email protected] 107 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Where do you think 40k got it

[–] [email protected] 79 points 4 months ago (10 children)

I went to the capuchin crypt in Italy.

Spoiler; had nothing to do with monkeys

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I went to a crypt in Britain as a kid, can't remember where tf it was, but I still remember it because it was super interesting.

It's where I learned about Trepanning and how they did it back in olden times to "let the bad spirits out" and it actually worked because it reduced swelling around the brain by giving the blood a way out.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

capucin- prefix comes from the Latin for "hood," and by synecdoche means "monks" (who wear hoods)

Cafe Cappuccino has the same roots.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, that one is definitely a sight to see, if you can stand looking at dead people's bones.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

if you can stand looking at dead people's bones

I much prefer it to looking at alive people's bones

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I'm fine with them. I went through that whole catacomb and then went through the others.

They have a lot of bony vaults and tunnels and catacombs in Italy.

And whatever church has the wooden fragments of Christ's cross.

I saw those too.

They look like wood fragments.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

At one point, there were probably enough cross fragments going around to build a house with.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 months ago (2 children)

"Hey, who turned out the lights?"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

In a helmet, suit and everything, holy shit.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

I bet it isn't really Magdalene.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Chances are, it isn’t. The early Catholic Church did a lot of this kind of thing, where they would claim to have a piece of the cross, or a bone of St Peter in a church. It was just to drive tourism into their churches. If you took all the claimed pieces of the cross and assembled them, it would make far more than one cross.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The alleged skull of Mary Magdalene.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (7 children)

I like Martin Luther's polemic about relics: "How many pieces of the true cross are there in the world? How many thorns from Christ's crown of thorns? How many nails from the crucifixion? There are enough nails to shoe all the horses in Saxony. And if all the relics of the saints were gathered together, there would be enough bones to build a ship and enough wood to boil all the water in the sea."

In that sense it's one of Mary Magdalene's many heads.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago (6 children)

You shall make no idols to yourselves; and you shall not set up for yourselves graven images, or a memorial pillar. And you shall not set up any image of stone in your land in order to bow down to it. For I am Jehovah your God.

He went pretty ape shit about the golden cow—as believable any part of that story goes. Catholics seem to be all about idoloc knick-knacks and getting all stabby and controlling over them... Like, the opposite of what a Christian is meant to do.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 months ago (3 children)

That's one of the fundamental disagreements between Catholics and Protestants.

A Catholic would argue that veneration of saints isn't worship, it's showing respect for someone who exemplified Christian ideals, or died as a martyr. Canonization is basically the religious version of the Medal of Honor.

A Protestant would argue that the distinction between veneration and worship is arbitrary, and veneration of a saint essentially amounts to idolatry anyway.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

As an apostate, I don't really see a difference, but it feels inconsistent to see people praying to a specific Saint all the time. Are they supposed to be the middle man between you and God? Didn't Jesus die specifically for that?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Are they supposed to be the middle man between you and God?

Yes

Didn't Jesus die specifically for that?

Uhh, not exactly. I think catholic god sealed heaven off after Adam and eve did the thing. Jesus came down and died to fix everything and open heaven back up. I assume the waiting room was getting full. He also died for all sins ever, but you are still born with original sin and have to go to confession etc.

Asking saints to intercede is just asking for personal bullshit. Different saints were known for different things, so being experts on those things they would be the best to hand your prayer based on that thing to God.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Skulls for the skull throne...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (4 children)

That Jesus guy sure is a bloodthirsty one.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sure it is. Let's just pretend there is no monetary incentive for a region to have a holy relic which brings them a bunch of tourism. Ain't nothing holy under capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Every single consecrated Catholic altar contains a relic of a saint. Usually they're pretty small, maybe a piece of a fingerbone or something. You're right that a good one like this would bring in lots of pilgrims (tourist dollars,) but it's a tradition that way predates capitalism.

I'm not in the business of defending the Catholic Church or capitalism, just wanted to clarify.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago

Hideo Kojima: Hmmm

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Something I always love to add to these sorts of threads:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Nine_Angles

It expresses the view that the current aeonic civilization is that of the Western world, but it claims that the evolution of this society is threatened by the "Magian/Nazarene" influence of the Judeo-Christian religion, which the Order seeks to combat in order to establish a militaristic new social order, which it calls the "Imperium". According to Order teachings, this is necessary in order for a galactic civilization to form, in which "Aryan" society will colonise the Milky Way.

It's beyond heresy.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's a lot of fantasy settings id like to live in but Warhammer is not one of them especially anything imperium related

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Lots of child abuse going on related to O9A, theyre evil fucks

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (4 children)

As someone who grew up in a Muslim country, I have to say, Westerners this is some weird shit man. Like, call the police weird. We are supposed to be the barbarians yet you get to have skull thrones and shit? WTF?

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

All the Abrahamic religions are death cults. It's just as morbid as muslim sects that force women to dress head to toe black robes or w/e. The extremism just becomes part of the scenery when you're around it, but it's all objectively bizzare.

Like think about it, these religions were literally invented by bronze age goat herds who thought the earth was flat and covered by a dome, and people in the modern day still believe in them. It's literally group insanity.

It would be like someone who still believes in the greek gods or something.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

Religion is heavily intertwined with barbarism. The West/Christian countries have dumped more than their fair share on the world.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The whole point of religion was to keep the psychopaths in control. Sometimes you had to throw them a bone to keep them in line.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Make an animatronic out of it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Insert a 1 euro coin and the skull will sing your favorite hymn.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't know how the Christians see this and think anything other than "this is some evil shit".

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I don't know how Christians read the Old Testament and think anything other than "This is some evil shit."

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago

That's metal as hell- I mean, heaven!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The Moment i realised the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

And I’m supposed to believe people paid good money for a blowie from that face?

Actually, nevermind, I believe it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Even in death I still serve

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