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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

Hold the fuck on, this person has a degree in philosophy?

People in the imperial core study philosophy and somehow don't read Marx? How the fuck can they understand anything of 20 century philophy let alone history without it?

Good lord.

Also, you don't become leftist becaus of some ultra nerd shit you read trying to be edgy, you become a leftist out of spite of this fucking world after reading a teaspoon of history or just watching the homeless walking in the street whule there is a fucking TV show about superyachts in the background.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

In many curriculums, he's not mentioned at all. I took a class on political theory and he wasn't mentioned once. I took another on European history and he was mentioned twice, once during the industrial revolution when the proffessor said Marx was wrong because thwre were factory managers, and again with the October Revolution. He was briefly mentioned in an intro to sociology course by my professor, but we spent significantly more time on Weber. He's been systematically torn out of curricula.

Edit: I legitimately think it was wiped per the University's orders too because the sociology professor was involved in DSA. Likewise in an international relations course, my professor had a May 1968 sticker on his laptop. He mentioned Lenin and Imperialism once and then continued on like it had never been said. I did see a sociology adjunct tell some students (not his) to read the Manifesoto though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

I remember my Intro to Political Science class literally taught that "socialism is when the government does stuff, communism is when it does a lot" meme as true.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)

I think lib history professors love Weber. It’s like Marx minus Marx if that makes sense—examining the world (or at least Europe in the last few centuries...) economically but also through this mystical thing called “culture” which arises from nothing and cannot be resisted.

I had a history professor in college I loved as a lib. He was fond of Weber and Israel (although he never talked about Israel because I think he knew how gauche it looked). I took several classes with him and we got on well together but he screwed me on my final evaluation because (I believe) I publicly supported BDS. Many years later he posted a photo of himself standing within a few feet of Elizabeth Warren.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

That's depressing. Also that Weber thing talking about culture sounds like some shit pulled out from some "right wing theorist" spewing bullshit about the superior culture etx

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Yesterday I was listening to the Know Your Enemy podcast episode on Blue Collar Conservatives which features an interview with two former blue collar conservatives. So much of what they said about their youths (particularly an emphasis on self-help books) reminded me of my own youth, even though I grew up in a lib house. It can sometimes be difficult to disentangle liberalism from conservatism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

difficult to disentangle liberalism from conservatism.

Oh, why would that be, huh?

Like really, the only clear differences are their treatment of brown, LGBT and non-christian people. All the rest is basically "murican civil religion" and McCarthyism with slightly different levels of zealotry but the lines are very blurred.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

It’s slow polite fascism versus fast impolite fascism.

Libs however think that communists and fascists are the same.

Fascists think that libs and communists are also the same.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)

People in the imperial core study philosophy and somehow don’t read Marx?

#JustAngloThings

In most of Europe they still read Marx a lot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

There’s seemingly a very weird division between what’s studied within and without the Anglosphere. Students on “the continent” study Freud, Lacan, Marx, and Hegel, but you will only hear these characters mentioned with contempt (if at all) in Amurka. We’re stuck instead with Plato, Foucault, and George Orwell lol.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

Plato, Foucault, and George Orwell lol

One of these things is not like the other

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)

I soured on Foucault when I found out about his relationship with children.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

I don't like giving bad news but this Plato dude...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Hard for me to understand how you could ever stop reading Marxist texts once you really get going. It’s like a drug, and like a drug, it feels great.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

No wonder why the loony left loves communism! It's literally drugs for them! Thats why we need to save America by burning all books!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

This is the same exact viewpoint I've heard college educated types express in regards to Marxism over and over. Like a "Marx's works are really interesting, but Marxists are the worst. I'd hate to be like them. Anyway I'm a Foucaultian epistemological positivist with influence from blah blah blah academic jargon."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

Yeeeeup. Worked with a dude getting his philosophy masters and the goal is basically to be not wrong but also totally useless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Isn't it funny how all these people have all these super important and super complex worldviews which are so extremely cultivated and worked out and yet they never translate to anything in the real world?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

Sometimes they get jobs as grifters at pointless think tanks if that counts

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

well yeah of course. when your most deeply ingrained value is just commodity fetishism, every aspect of one's personhood becomes available for commodification. your beliefs are just something you consume as part of the spectacle or whatnot.