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Donald Trump destroys Kamala Harris in new poll (www.newsweek.com)

submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The poll also highlights an ongoing issue for the Democratic Party in that Harris is considered less popular among voters than President Joe Biden.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Okay I'm not saying she's the best choice, wouldn't be my preferred choice, but also this is a poll run by the Daily Mail. I can't even find any pollster reputation ratings for them. I also can't find any of their methodologies published online, which is also sketchy. And knowing what we all do about the Daily Mail anyways, this should all be taken with a massive truckload of salt.

Edit: Ah found it, it was run by J.L partners, ranked 145 on five thirty eight pollster rankings for reliability (1.6/3 stars for reliability with a transparency score of 4.2/10). And again, without the methodology being published who knows. The pollster themself, James Johnson, is also a former senior advisor to Theresa May and the UK conservative party.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (3 children)

A DailyMail.com survey of 1,000 likely voters

Well that seems like some untrustworthy bullshit. Give me a sample size of 100,000 and maybe I’ll listen. Fucking polls…

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago

A thousand voters is actually a perfectly good statistical sampling for the US population.

What matters is that

the daily Mail isn't overly credible
they don't mention how the thousand voters were selected.

A thousand people is enough to get you into single digit margin of error for a population the size of the US. If you find them by dialing random landlines, or mailing surveys to people with a voter history, your sample biases towards the demographic that still has landlines or that's willing to take the time to fill out a paper survey.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's just an absurdly large sample size. 1000 is adequate if a little on the low side.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

1000 daily mail readers isn't adequate

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

If the Daily Mail had been the complaint I might agree with you, it was the numbers though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

A 100,000 person response rate for a snap poll is basically impossible. Not enough people say yes to taking political polls. Most polling is done with 1000-1500, and if you want higher response rates, you have to look at aggregators like 538.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The survey says other Democrat figures seen as possible replacements for Biden—such as California Governor Gavin Newsom, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg—would also lose to Trump by double figures.

Disclaimer: I'm on the Momala bandwagon now.

Part of the problem here is that the job of the VP is kind of meh. Sit around as an understudy in case the main act has a colonoscopy or something, and go down to the Senate every now and then to break up fights. It's not supposed to be a popular job. So of course people don't like her. She's had to stay in the background, particularly when people have doubts about the President's ability, and if she was more visible people might think it's because the President needs his nap.

I don't believe all these bad numbers will stick, because they're all hypothetical. If Harris ultimately gets the nod, she will gain in the polls once it no longer becomes hypothetical. (For that matter, so would any other candidate listed. I like Harris, but I like the others listed, too. They can all at least stay up past Jeopardy.)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

DESTROYS!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Honestly I don't know anyone who likes her. And it isn't a sexism thing. She was a terrible AG locking up many people for minor crimes and being "tough on crime" to the point of advocating for police militarization and excessive force. I absolutely detest her. Still voted for her on the ticket.

At this point it doesn't matter. Count Binface could run with Hillary Clinton and all the Democrats that would vote Biden/Harris will vote for them. Anyone that is "undecided" is just a fool.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Even her own staff hates her, so this should not surprise anyone.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/30/kamala-harris-office-dissent-497290

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/people-really-really-do-not-want-to-work-for-kamala-harris/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Those are very old stories