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It's funny, I tend to fixate on shooting events when they happen and follow the news and dig into it. But I didn't even hear about this till days later.
My conspiracy is that this kid got groomed or extorted by stronger sovereign types to do this.
If by using the youth you mean discussing very prevalent political items that they will absolutely need to deal with in a time where they are forming their perception of what reality is actually like… then yeah..
When else would be an appropriate time to discuss current standings, issues, and opinions than during the dawn of adulthood? We vote at 18 in the US… it’s absolutely acceptable to be talking about this stuff when teens are starting highschool. And of all the political sides, try as the republicans may, democratic/liberal policies are generally based on how things are affecting everyone from the richest of rich down to the smallest minority demographic.
Sure there’s crazies on both sides, but trying to find a Republican who’s open to different ideas and concerns is a lot harder than finding a dem. One is based on modernization and societal progress while the other just points to any problem and suggests regression and suppression. Pretty simple imo
One is based on modernization and societal progress while the other just points to any problem and suggests regression and suppression.
This is what they've indoctrinated you as a teenager to think, doesn't make it true though. The truth is both exist primarily, if not solely to maintain capitalism and the status quo.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/22/american-democracy-was-never-designed-to-be-democratic
https://tribunemag.co.uk/2023/06/no-capitalism-isnt-democratic
https://libcom.org/article/capitalist-democracy-illusion-choice
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10/14/liberalism-and-fascism-partners-in-crime/
Indoctrination and having inherent bias are two completely different things.
Believe it or not, I’m capable of critical thinking and questioning of the status quo. Just because I’m arguing about two sides doesn’t mean I subscribe to any of them. Apples, oranges, doesn’t matter when the whole orchard is rotting and has been doing so for a long time.
How were we ever supposed to use a system designed to rely on popular opinion to support everyone, including minority topics. Doesn’t make sense.
Don’t confuse my comparisons and subjective descriptions with actual subscription.
Everything to me just points to this being a very confused and disaffected kid who wanted to do something memorable with his life. I genuinely don't think there was much consideration beyond that. He was 20 years old, were your political beliefs as concrete and nuanced when you were that age as they are today?
I was 19 for 9/11. It solidified where I stood pretty well. I'd say 20 year olds today could easily be just as galvanized, especially with the way social media has changed things since then.
Hey we're the same age! I remember when 9/11 happened and the subsequent invasion of Afghanistan, that I didn't really know the main differences of news sources and fully understand how they leaned one way or another. I remember watching Fox News at the time, but didn't really realize that it was blatant propaganda. It wasn't until I started looking into other news sources and then looked into media biases that I started to realize just how fucked up Fox News is.
So I don't really expect most 19 or 20 year olds to really know what's trustworthy and what's not.
Watching the war on CNN in the dorms like a TV series every day
Yep, this is it. Before, he was an awkward kid from a backward place with no friends and no prospects. Now, his name is forever associated with Donald Trump.
Yes
Everything to me just points to this being a very confused and disaffected kid who wanted to do something memorable with his life.
Used to be, a guy like this would simply shoot up a school. But now that he's shooting at our Dear Leader, its time to get serious about ~~gun control~~ ~~mental health~~ ~~violent political rhetoric~~ Tankies.
He's the prototypical American lone wolf shooter, it's not complicated
The $15 donation was another guy with the same name. This guy was 17 at the time.
I just want to chime in and say thank you for editing your post after finding new information. If everyone in the world was like you, this place would suck a lot less.
Dem too.
/s
He has the same name as a guy who donated to ActBlue?! DEM
Please Ive heard this but I could never find a source for it.
Huh. Well, I trust Snopes enough to retract that. For obvious reasons they don’t specify the address in question.
You shouldn't trust Snopes at all anymore. They literally said that Trump never said "good people on both sides".
Which Trump bragged about in the debate a few days later.
I don't trust them at all, anymore
It's hard to actually tell. There's a 69 year old Thomas Crooks in Pittsburgh who regularly donated to ACT BLUE.
ACT BLUE also does not accept donations from those under 18 due to legal liability issues.
On the other hand, the donation in question, on Jan 20 2021, had Thomas M Crooks' address. Or at least his zip code.
The age thing is what makes me think Snopes is wrong, and they have been known to lie before for things like Elon and his bullshit.
The FEC filing for the donation matches the shooters address: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-shooter-donation
Now snopes says true, now
Heh. It does say “True” that the shooter made the donation.
So, it’s “False” that the shooter didn’t make the donation.
Ah, I'm stupid
Oh, damn..
I've seen actblue ask for money for literally everything. Likely they were advertising for something conservative.
There was a “lifehack” going around a while back about making it so if you failed you had to donate to something you don’t like to motivate yourself.
It IS weird though that he tried to shoot the Rep candidate and I can't really see why, yet. We will probably hear a lot of explanations for this and I'd be curious about yours.
So far I have heard rumours about a possible inside job/secret service involvement as an explanation, because they should have been aware of him. Might be, but I personally haven't seen anything too convincing to verify or falsify this.
Another one I could see is that he wanted to vote Republican but at some point realized that Trump sucks ass to put it mildly. So he tried to somehow push the Rep party to at least get back in touch with the idea of sanity by killing him?
Other than that... make Trump a martyr somehow? Have a plot to blame it on the Dems? Mental issues?
Trump is a fascist and some small portion of Republicans still don't support fascists.
Suicide by cop.
I feel like he was unwell, and trying to apply reason to his motives will be a fool's errand.
There are three theories
Trump had people hire him to pretend to assassinate him, and he went along with it thinking it'd boost Trump's ratings (Kinda dumb and conspiratorial)
He wasn't aiming for Trump, but someone in the crowd, and Trump was hit by mistake (Given that he doesn't aim for center of mass, this makes sense)
He wanted to kill Trump, fearing he wasn't Right Leaning enough (There are already people bashing Vance not for being racist, but for not being racist enough)
Also wasn't the payment to the Biden campaign found to actually be someone else with a similar name?
There could be a million reasons. It seems morbid speculating.
This is quite a significant incident in the middle of an important election campaign. While some reasons for the attempt may seem insignificant (e.g., mental illness), others could turn out to be quite important moving forward (e.g., involvement of secret service, faked attempt by Trump's team etc.). Any evidence for or against any of these could have political implications and effects on the election results.
His face kind of looks like Elizabeth Warren. She's a Democrat! Lol