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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Depends on how you say it and in which context.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A shrug and a β€œpretty good” = acceptable, not worth complaining about.

A slow grin first or it being said loudly = better than good, great.

Although this depends on how emotive the speaker is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

if someone shrugs with pretty good

or shrugs with good

to me the former is still better than the latter.

I don't see a way for pretty good to mean less than good

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Wow! Pretty good!

Vs

That was pretty good, but....

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

My Bad-to-Good spectrum would be:

Bad

Pretty bad

Fairly bad

Fairly good

Pretty good

Good

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would rate pretty bad as worse than bad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"It's not bad, but it's still pretty bad" is a phrase I can see myself saying. Not sure about the other way round - doesn't really work for me, but to each their own...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see it as similar to "very bad", which would be worse than just "bad".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think both are correct depending on the inflection

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I think it's contextual.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have to say my bad-to-good ratio is probably:

Pretty bad

Bad

Not good

Ok <- Neutral

Not bad

Pretty good

Good

Which I now realize is a little weird to have "ok" be neutral, with not bad/good on either side of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For me, it all depends on tone of voice, and what word is emphasized. β€œPretty good!” generally means better than expected. β€œPretty good” is like β€œGood, but…”

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Neither, really. I use it to mean "more than expected". Like, if my kids insist I watch a cartoon with them, and I enjoy it, i'd say it's "pretty good". Or if a coworker said something awful about a customer, I might say the comment was "pretty mean".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This seems like the right take. It's based on expectations.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Worse.

See also: "Pretty close"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ha, exactly.

Not many options for a little less than good without people getting offended.

"Kinda good" or "almost good" definitely would upset people.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Generally better, but it's contextual. Someone saying with a surprised tone "It was pretty good" implies that it's better than good and better than expected, and that the person might not have expected it to be good. Someone saying with a muted or dull "It was good..." would be worse than "pretty good" and implies that it was acceptable but disappointing or mediocre.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think for me it's generally the same but I'm not a native English speaker so idk lol

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

it can mean "decent, better than I expected"

or

"good, but not exceptional or memorable"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Depends on the tone.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd say it means goodish

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Pretty good is less than good.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it depends on what expectations were.

You and your friends make a horror movie and it's better than you thought: Hey, that's pretty good.

Steven Spielberg makes a mediocre horror movie: It was pretty good.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think I use 'pretty good' to pretend I have an opinion about something, rather than it being a moral judgement:

How was the film? Pretty good vs.
How was the film? Good.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can't imagine how "pretty good" could mean "better than good." Most of the examples posted here are talking about how something relates to your expectations, but that's not the question. Yes, "pretty good" is often used to describe something that is better than expected, but that doesn't make it better than "good."

For example, it doesn't make sense to say "$50 is good, but $100 is pretty good!"

I do think "pretty good" is often used as an understated way to say that something is very good, e.g. "Yeah, Messi is pretty good at soccer." However, that's a play on the actual meaning of the phrase, and should not be construed as the actual meaning.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Depends on tone.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It would totally depend on my enthusiasm. More often, though, it means worse.

Worse: "Yeah, it's pretty good. But..." <- Talking about a game or a movie

Better: "Whoa! This is pretty good!" <- Food!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Intonation can carry the meaning.

In the UK, pretty good can mean anything from "not as bad as I thought it would be" to just "OK" or "pretty good! :D"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I see β€œpretty good” to be better than just β€œgood”. It seems obvious to me, considering one is only good but the other is pretty good.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not necessarily worse, but more ambiguous than if I say something is good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yea for me "pretty good" is an estimate around good. Like using -ish. I don't want to say it was good but it was around good.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I always thought pretty good was better than good. Honestly surprised to find out I may have been wrong my entire life.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Good

Pretty good

Really/Very good

Extremely good

Great

Pretty great

Really/very great

Extremely great

Awesome

...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Good>pretty good

The word good is a stronger affirmative imo

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's not just good, it's good enough!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I learned about it the other day. Apparently native English speakers know than non native use it in a more positive way then they do

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

pretty good is less good than good

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Worse. Sometimes just a little worse than good, sometimes it's medium or negative but you're just trying to be nice. "How did you like the liver and onions I cooked for you?". "It was pretty good."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Generally, for me, it means something less than entirely "good."

The times I'm most likely to use it are when I'm finding minor fault with something - "Well... it was pretty good, but..." or when something is better than I expected, but not quite fully good - "Hey! That was actually pretty good!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When we say something the words have more impact than the word itself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Same as good but it has limited impact

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Slightly worse