No, the best decision would be if they allowed us to disable shorts.
this post was submitted on 17 Aug 2023
174 points (89.9% liked)
Technology
59111 readers
4050 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related content.
- Be excellent to each another!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Approved Bots
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
After I selected LEAVE HISTORY OFF, it stopped letting me browse and keeps asking me to ENABLE HISTORY. Anything google product has become hostile.
Almost makes up for YouTube Shorts
Shorts are nice when used properly. 60 second videos with no ads, subscription reminder or useless padding to reach 10 minutes? More, please! But channels which just upload excerpts of their recent videos as shorts just clutter my feed.
The player has 0 controls, only vertical videos and you can't even filter them out permanently either. It is also full of low effort garbage spam that muddies search results. There's literally multiple channels that upload the same 5 videos every hour or so, using search terms / tags for other viral topics that have nothing to do with them. It's a fucking disaster.
Use Youtube Enhancer, it’s an extension that lets you permanently hide any existence of shorts.
I know. It just pisses me off that they keep forcing shit down the users throat constantly. It's like the exact opposite of what I want from a video on demand platform. They constantly add bullshit like this, or remove actual features that helped make things the way I want them to. All because the glorious algorithm knows better than me.
Not on TV. Who the fuck wants to watch vertical 60second videos on a 16:9 TV?
It boggles my mind it's forced upon us even on the TV app
Oh dear, please, don't give 'em ideas. lol
Thanks for the nostalgia. I haven't seen a login YT home feed in years, and I used to be a CC. YT has been a dumpster fire since the lobotomy of 2017.
It's even worse now. It used to have a gigantic "thumbnails" like a size of my middle and index finger combined.
They'll soon also block you from watching videos if you are using an adblocker.
Well, no shite. I'll use Chromium without adblock and signed-in account, then. I'll separate my YouTube and personal web browsing... oh wait, Firefox Containers exist.
I'm definitely not going to watch ads if there's no way around them. I'd just move on. The platform has been on a constant downfall for me over the past decade anyway. Most of it is just clickbait shit and the recommendation algorithms became worse and worse too. Same with the search function. They don't even allow you to search for explicit terms using quotation marks anymore and I still don't understand why they did that. All my search results are muddled with unrelated garbage now, often times in front of the stuff I actually want to find.
Nebula seems like a cool concept. Not sure if there is enough content to be worth it for me yet (I dont watch much youtube to begin with), but I definitely like the idea. They are also currently partnered with a documentary service, so that might push me into it though.
If you want to pay for ad free YT then you can just pay for ad free YT.
I don't want ad free youtube. I want a platform that isn't going to recommend garbage, has fair profit sharing with creators and doesn't encourage creators to pump out garbage based off of their business model.
Then Nebula isn't for you either. It's 90% the same content that's on YT, including a bunch of the clickbait bullshit.
What did youtube do?
You won't get video recommendations on your home feed (and maybe also other parts of youtube) if you have watch history disabled in your google account settings (you request google not to save your watch history).
Why would people want this? How else do you find videos to watch?
I am subscribed to over 100 channels, ranging from daily uploads to 1 video every few months. Frankly I don't need more stuff to watch. When I do want to find something new, it's either a recommendation from a friend, something I saw on a different social media, or something I searched for myself deliberately.
This change isn't a good thing, it's Google trying to pressure more people into giving up more data, but the "threat" of them removing their algorithmically recommended content from my feed is not a threat at all, it's a bonus if anything.
I don't watch any YouTube personalities or subscribe to channels. If I'm on YouTube, it's to see a specific music video, informational video, or something linked by a friend
In short, if I'm not specifically looking for a video, I don't need or want one recommended to me.
We can still find content from subscribed channels.
Wait so you guys are disabling it or?
I leave it on, the suggestions are good as far as I can tell. What's everyone's beef with it?
I don't get the YouTube hate in general. It's much more interesting than Netflix or TV so I'm happy to pay, although I pay Argentina rates courtesy of subscribing while connected to my VPN and I use Sponsor Block to skip the in-video ad reads. It still counts
Yeah, I'm all for privacy, but I actually get interesting things recommended by YouTube. If I turn this off won't I just get random YouTube videos? No thanks. I also do use my watch history for "I watched it the other day, what was that video called again?"
Every time I set up a new computer, and before I log into Youtube and see my own recommendations, I look at the raw front page and am shocked that people find all that bullshit entertaining. Nothing but clickbait, drama, and political videos as far as the eye can see.
I recently started a new google account and was actually disturbed by the absolute shit on the raw front page.
I actually tried to watch some of the videos to get an inkling of what is supposed to be appealing and I just couldn't. It was sooooo bad.
It's like any other social, they show you what the masses watch, andò what they want you to watch (mostly because they're going to profit more if you watch ultramonetized videos)
Exactly, it's total garbage. I've been training the algo for years, no way I'm giving that up
For me the thing that holds me back from using an alternative frontend is that the yt algoritm doesnt work on those. The thing that i hate is that it doesnt recommend the channels which I'm subscibed to most of the times. Also, on my FreeBSD-based mobile operanting system, there arent frontend wrappers so I'm left with the proprietary app which is included in the package store
I want to watch less YouTube so I leave recommendations off
I disabled my Google and YouTube's history settings since 2019.
Some video suggestions let me suspect that this only disables me being able to see my history though.
I feel this too. When i listen to a song on one device then it gets recommended on another even with history off was kind of sus
Well, this is the point of "removing" tailored suggestions on YT's homepage.
Idk why you would want less tailored suggestions for content. They'll still suggest stuff, it just won't be relevant to you. Shrug. I'm a big fan of YouTubers rec algorithm, especially for music.
Dude, I recently turned on my History for the first time since 2019, watched five monetized videos (long-form film-related stuffs, turned off uBlock Origin), and YT just flooded me with nonsense local stuffs with their ridiculous "thumbnails" on homepage.
I was like, "lulz nope dis is disgusting."
There's a firefox plugin that redirects you to your subscriptions' uploads instead of that nonsense that "Home" was. Highly recommend.
They'll soon also block you from watching videos if you are using an adblocker.
Nice, isn't it?
They'll soon also block you from watching videos if you are using an adblocker.
A good move from Youtube for sure.
They need to ban reaction thumbnails ffs