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I dont understand how it is his choice to do so or not. Its the voters who decide. If he doesn't have the backing he shouldn't be able to. Its not up to him

Either he'll run and keep ripping the Republican party to shreds, or he'll drop dead. Either way, it's a win.

I doubt it. While some people think he'll be dead by then, I'm inclined to suspect not. However given his observed mental decline, I suspect that he'll be even less coherent 4 years from now. He's currently 78, and would therefore be 82 by then (birthday June 14th 1946). He's already got a number of age-related medical issues, such as needing to wear adult diapers and said mental decline.

Behind the scenes is be surprised if he didn't have some cardiac problems, even minor ones, and thus was on something for them, such as blood thinners or cholesterol meds. I don't know if it's been verified that he's on Ozempic, but he sure has lost a lot of weight lately and I don't think it's from exercising.

I do expect that he's never going to shut up though. If, hopefully, he loses this election, he's not going to just evaporate. People are still going to give a damn about what his opinion is and who he endorses, especially his cult of followers, but also the less overtly extreme conservatives.

As a general rule, cults built around a singular person, AKA cults of personality, tend to crumble into dust and fade into history once that personality is gone. However, some cults outlive that person because someone else is there to pick up the slack and reform things just enough to make a going concern of the cult. That's how Christianity started, that's how Protestantism started, and if you look into it, just about every other major, lasting "religion" that had branched off of the Christianity family tree. It also goes for political, cultural, and social movements, which can be cult-like without the religious aspect being an absolute requirement, although ir can be very strongly intertwined. I don't know where the Cult of Trump will go once old age finally catches up to him, I think it's likely that it'll be reabsorbed into christo-facism because the two feed off of each other pretty strongly.

Hopefully someone will have better aim before then

I think it's unlikely hell be alive in 2028. The problem is the people that support him now, will be. They'll try again and again to get the things they want passed. If it's not now, they're patient enough to wait. They won't stop unless they're forced by judicial action and these people are behind bars. It's not trump that's the biggest issue. It's the evil people behind him.

Action->Reaction.

Reaction against Obama put Trump in, right?

Reaction against Trump put Biden in, right?

I hope Harris wins, but the world-economy is being flushed, with exponential-force, down the sewer, & NO incumbent survives that kind of thing ( backlash-vote ),

AND as the book "The Big Sort" apparently explains, the cultural-segregation that mass-media push so hard creates intolerance.

Which, of course, when escalated by mass media of various alignments, keeps amplifying ( feedback-loops ) until .. genociding.

The locking-Anglos-out in Quebec ( we no longer have any access to goverment phone-services in English ) is simply an earlier stage of divide-and-genocide than whan the US is in, but .. it'll get there.

Whether unconsciously or consciously, the heads of Quebec are committed to turning Canada into another Russia/Ukraina, Israel/Palestine, Deep-South racism kind of thing, in a generation or 2, for whatever they win/gain in accomplishing that.

IF Trump doesn't win 2024, then Civil War begins in 2028, +/- a very-few months, & continues until the US is butchered-carrion.

It's far too late to save the US: the real problem is that Animals-and-Tribes-Time mode of Kahneman1 mind ( imprint->reaction ) has already successfully highjacked the country.

As .. Glubb, was it? realized, empires die at about 2.5-centuries.

There's a book "How to Hide an Empire" on the American Empire, so anybody who wants to pretend that all the machiavellian interventions ( remember when Iraq's intervention backfired, because they didn't want to be a puppet-state, & wanted self-determination? That was noticed openly in some news item or other, back then.. I'd not have clued-in to it, on my own, buth then, through the years.. there are puppets of lobbies, aren't there? & these lobbies work to enforce that accountability never get near them.. .. whatever: if humankind isn't viable, & Natural Selection extinguishes humankind, then humankind's herdbeast games, bullying & majority-domination, & minority-beaten/broken, same as in herds anywhere .. we were supposed to be upright-human, you know? if we failed The Great Filter, well, then too bad: we earn what we earn.. )

So, the identity of the ruling-class has sooo completely mismatched the actuality of the empire, now, that it's incapable of surviving.

Same as Rome, Britain's empire, etc..

12-13 generations, & .. kaput.

The Big ( cultural ) Sort seems to be the mechanism, but DarkHexad { narcissism / machiavelianism / sociopathy-psychopathy / nihilism / sadism } is cultivated, if not directly-grown, by privilege-caste, & .. well, that's a feedback-loop too, isn't it?

Concentration-of-privilege, concentration-of-wealth, which "says" "trickle-down economics", but is gaslighting..

which "says" "charity", but .. when you see that literally millions of DONATED $ are pocketed by the executives of the US's United Way .. that woke socialist feminist convicted-felon Yehoshua "Jesus" ( Iosa, in Roman/Latin, I've been told by an actual Roman-born person ) benJoseph already laced into fake-charity, 2 millenia ago..

Part of the problem is that it isn't a single problem: it's actually a fractal and chaotic anti-fragile/robust mesh of problems, which all mutually-reinforce..

Narcissism conserves "validity" & excludes all it can, to prove how "exclusive" its "validity" is, right? Anti-compassion. Sociopathy is .. exactly that, isn't it?

Feedback-loop..

How can "trickle-down economics", or "compassion for the privileged-caste/class's inferiors" ( note the contempt in their "charity".. I was born into the upper-middle-class, & it took 7+ years of accumulated homelessness for me to crack the identity-underlying-ego that that ideology/prejudice, as all "race", "class", & "gender" is, in social-process, enough for me to get to some kind of objective-honestly, more than a decade later.. )

The action->reaction cycle cannot be stopped, postponed, or prevented: US of A is finished.

I hope that Kamala Harris makes this last "calm before the storm" be as spiritually-thriving as she can, enforcing an increase in state-integrity, against lobbies' undermining of everything, but it doesn't change the pogrom/tantrum that'll destroy about 2/3 of the US's population in .. approximately 7y from when it begins ( that is just one of the natural human-cycles, because it's a cycle that our unconscious-mind "works" at: it's too "stuck" to work quicker.. )

You know how sometimes you have a grandparent or relative or friend or other-family, someone whom you really care about, & cancer/whatever's killing them?

& there's nothing you can do??

Objectively, that's what's happening with the US: it's fatal, it's implacable, only our relationship with its process, & outcome, & the way we make the process enact, can we change..

We can't prevent the death.

We can't prevent the reaping of the consequences of our previous-generations' "sowing" carelessness in education, or in accommodating the "surrender" ( technical-only, not honest/total ) of the KKK/Confederates, who've now done to much of the country exactly what McDonnell Douglass's beancounter-culture did to Boeing ( a "reverse takeover" )..

What has been sown, is going to be reaped, to use the Christian rendition of what the older religions call "karma".

end of Part 1, as the Lemmy character-count blocked my commenting with the whole thing in a single entry..

Even if he could (somehow) I'd doubt it - a lot of people seem to completely ignore the fact that the far-right critters simply isn't coming out of the woodwork for Trump now in the same way that they did in 2016. The reason for that is simple - Trump dropped them like a rotten potato the minute he walked into the Waffle House pretty much at the same time they were being beaten in the streets by antifa. They know that Trump is not their boy.

He still has his core of MAGAs, of course - but without the neo-nazis and the KKK doing their little "sturm-und-drang" schtick for Trump in the streets, Trump is going to be less of a "Great White Hope" and more "Great Orange Farce"... and this would be far worse for Trump in 2028 than it is now.

Good grief, he's too old now!

No, because if he wins, there aren't going to be any more elections.

He'll be too old.

I seriously question his survival that long. But if he’s capable yes

Maybe, but not under the GOP I think. Id bet on DeSantis at the moment, but who knows how the next four years shakes out

If he still lives and isn't a senile potato sure. Though he already almost got beat by Nikki Haley in the last primaries.

Some more extreme right winger will probably take Trumps place in 2028. Gotta keep sliding right.