this post was submitted on 04 Aug 2024
153 points (99.4% liked)

politics

19172 readers
5141 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago (3 children)

OK politicians sure do like wasting taxpayer dollars on unwinnable court cases.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

unwinnable court cases.

Under any other Supreme Court regime, I'd agree with this.

But under this Supreme Court.....remember that a lot of these previously-unwinnable cases are being brought up at the urging of Clarence Thomas and others on the court who have openly said they'd like to "revisit" these cases. We are talking about a court who has used foreign countries' laws, and medieval history to justify their rulings, and there's no reason to believe they won't do it again. Remember, they just got finished conjuring up the idea of near-absolute Presidential immunity out of thin air.

The case is definitely not unwinnable.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Alito and Thomas should be removed from the supreme Court, Thomas's wife is a traitor and you're judged by the company you keep and Alito is either a treasonous coward and blamed his treasonous wife, or he also keeps company with traitors. They have no right to be on the court and their decisions specifically should be vacated.

Edit: not to mention all of the ethics violations.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The Constitution is clear that keep their position in good behavior. The vast majority of people can see that accepting bribes is bad behavior. The question is who goes about removing justices? IIRC that isn't specifically laid out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Id suggest that removing corrupt justices could be an "official act" by the president?

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago (9 children)

5 Your breasts are like fawns, twins of a gazelle, grazing among the first spring flowers. 6 The sweet, fragrant curves of your body, the soft, spiced contours of your flesh Invite me, and I come. I stay until dawn breathes its light and night slips away.

Solomon 4:5-6

It's aboutta get spicy in Oklahoma

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Damn I didn't know it said I come in the bible

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

I grew up pretty Christian. That particular section (or book) has some pretty spicy stuff in it. There's also other questionable sexual stuff in other areas. Like you're supposed to impregnate your brother's widow if they die without an heir, polygamy etc ... It's a book that's incredible forward thinking for it's time, but it's time was like 6,000 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Oh man there is a ton of crazy sex in the Bible.

King David getting wood looking at one of his general's wives bathing on the rooftop and starts an affair that would eventually split the kingdom of Israel in half and start a war between brothers.

Onan refusing to impregnante his dead brother's widow and being struck dead for pulling out.

And don't even get me started on the incest...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I'm sure there are not many PG ways to interpret this passage but if there was it's not going to come from a teacher with no background in theology. The best part of this silly mandate is that teachers apparently have free reign to make the Bible say whatever they want. Make Jesus sound like the compassionate socialist he actually is.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A statistics class where your grade is determined by "drawing lots" as it shows God's desired grade....

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

I'd teach all the raping and incest and send homework in which parents need to participate finding the answers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Do you think the repugnicunts that pushed this through want anyone learning about the_real_ Jesus?

Nope, it's Supply Side Jesus they'll be teaching.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

To: Springfield High Educators
From: Springfield High School Board

It has come to our attention that some of our staff have been teaching Bible verses out of context. This has made some parents, particularly our esteemed LEOs, uncomfortable.

I hereby remind you that your contract binds you to a strict adherence to the Chart of Christian Values of Springfield and the Glorious State of Oklahoma.

For your next mandatory Bible Reading Session, please make sure to select passages that are in-line with those values.

Kind Regards,

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I'm European, but I think this goes against the First Amendment of the American Constitution:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

It super is. They don't care

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Everyone is well aware, but they are throwing spaghetti at the wall, hoping they can get something before the Supreme Court, which is controlled by people capable of shamelessly rationalizing any possible partisan decision, regardless of what the Constitution says.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Yes but our Supreme Court also goes against the Constitution, so it's a toss-up if this is legal or not.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

i did no see them obey their constitution yet. did they start to do so recently?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Not sure if that's sarcasm, but I'll explain regardless:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion

This part means that the government is not allowed to favor one religion above the others. A state releasing a mandate would fall under this. A mandate is "an authoritative command or instruction".

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Sure, go ahead and teach the Bible in public school.

That's when you cross the state/religion line and stop getting the publics tax funds to indoctrinate your shitheel children. It is a free country after all, the choice is always yours, OK.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

Teacher just need to strike. People lose their minds when they have to deal with their own kids and teach them. Covid really showed that

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (5 children)

What is worth teaching that's in "the" bible anyway? And which version(s) are acceptable?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sex-ed is now just Ezekiel 23:20 "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." (NIV)

Technically their beloved KJV is a bit less graphic, "For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses." But that gets funny in a different way since "asses" as a more common use these days.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

its funny because reading this passage in florida would probably get you arrested

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

a genious man once said:

"they should(!) teach them the bible !! ... and then also point out precisely where and how the catholic church evilish manipulated some parts to enpower them to abuse even more where the bible really told people how to see through their lies to get rid of such demonic abusers."

or so i've heared once long ago.

i think this is called "to howl with the wolfes" ;o) so why revolt when acting in 100% conformity solves the root problem even better ?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I agree. Plus all the socialist bits should be highlighted.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

And all the bits about gays. Although there'll be no need for the highlighter on that one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Oklahoma parents are going to go apeshit if their kids read the Sermon on the Mount.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'd be willing to teach the Bible:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asimov's_Guide_to_the_Bible

Cliff's Notes:

https://archive.org/details/kensguidetobible00kens/mode/1up

"Ok kids, here's everything the Bible gets wrong!"

Republicans: "Wait, not like that..."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Teachers would just be fired and replaced with TVs playing "The Greatest Adventure: Stories from the Bible" cartoons on a loop.

That's what's so insidious about the Christianization of public education. It is, at it's heart, an extension of the privatization movement. Find schools that resist and destroy them, so you can justify cutting your overall education budget by claiming you're defeating Woke Leftist Teachers.

Even schools that do faithfully comply will inevitably get harassed and defunded. Because the goal isn't to teach the Bible, it is to loot the budget.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The goal is also to keep the population ignorant so they keep voting against their best interests

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Or, only teach the rape and incest. In elementary schools.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's not really a mandate so there's no revolt. As per The Friendly Atheist blog and podcast, this superintendent dumbfuck has no authority to enforce what he said. School officials may be saying fuck that, but it's not a revolt when he made a completely empty statement.

The first to push back happened last month. The superintendent's office, when asked by press, replied: "Oh yes they will." With no language about how they would make that happen.

Fuck this christofascist, but this story / headline is bullshit. (I didn't read the story because I already know that the headline doesn't match reality thanks to TFA.)

https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/oklahoma-superintendent-rejects-bibles

https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/more-oklahoma-school-districts-are

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

It is a revolt for districts have to reject guidance from a superintendent en masse. That's not a normal way for an education system to be run. So it's not bullshit; you just are a bit too strict with your semantics, but that's your issue.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

What!? There are no pedants on the Internet! How dare you

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Thou shall not kill, yet Oklahoma has a death penalty. Don't work on the Sabbath, yet everything is open on Sunday.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thank God there's some sanity in that terrible state

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›