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It's a key feature of Google maps that I don't have a great replacement for. I assume moderating the reviews would be a significant challenge for the project.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago (3 children)

mapcomplete has integration with this site:

https://mangrove.reviews/

I've also seen this project:

https://lib.reviews/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

MapComplete has a feature to post Mangrove reviews too!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

these are pretty interesting! I don't really like that the infra/data is centralized. always leaves room for bad actors to come along, whether they buy out the project or manipulate reviews.

would be cool if there are any projects out there that are doing something federated so you can choose which sets of review data you want to trust, I wonder if it's possible to extend or plugin to ActivityPub.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Should be possible. With reviews however, one needs a central curator to weed out the spam reviews...

whether they buy out the project

Which is why an open license is important: it allows to fork if needed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

yeah, I had a similar thought about curators, but in my mind, if the curators own a single self-contained platform, they will inevitably become corrupt. so if that's true, let there be many instances and individuals can choose what to trust.

I think a platform like this would be very different from lemmy or something because instances/communities/whatever would be internally incentivized to keep the quality of reviews high for their own sake (which others could benefit from too). maybe that manifests as heavily controlling sign ups or new members are able to post reviews but need to be approved in some way to have their reviews included in the overall instance stats. just spit balling, but I think mechanics that assist that will be very important.

being open source does guard the code, but I think the far more important part is the running platform and its data. I imagine any platform like this will want to own all of its data, so anyone setting up a new deploy would completely start from scratch. if nothing else, people would have to recreate their accounts and attempt to recreate their data. and if past attempts to get people to switch platforms is any indication, I think that would be very difficult.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

I would also be interested in using and contributing to such a project!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I assume moderating the reviews would be a significant challenge for the project.

Are google maps reviews even moderated? I've found them to be complete trash for years now

Just bots and influencers giving 5 or 1 star reviews for everything

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Me too. I've asked this before but found nothing yet

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Sometimes I even think about adding a Google Maps Link to POIs, because of Reviews. The reviews helping a lot to know what to expect from a POI before visiting them.

Thankfully there is no established tag yet.