Nothing says back to school time more than the smell of gunpowder. And of course nothing will be done because America has decided guns have more rights than kids.
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For us here in Europe I think this is the biggest culture shock when it comes to America. It's just unthinkable to prioritise your drunk neighbour's right to bear arms over children's lives.
can't say "culture" without saying "cult"
and nothing triggers (lol) gunbros more than telling them "carrying an assault rifle into starbucks doesn't make you look tough, it makes you look like a weak scared fucking pussy"
Because they don't want kids educated, they want them dumb and easy to manipulate. Easiest way is to ensure no learning can actually be accomplished by forcing schools to spend needless money on security forces and metal detectors all while reducing school funding so we can't pay teachers a living wage.
Boring dystopia wins again. Our country likes its gun freedumbs more than its own children staying alive. (While making all sorts of noises about saving the children from....books).
America has decided guns have more rights than kids.
This is the truth. Jim Jefferies did a great stand up set about guns in the US. His conclusion was that none of the reasons for owning a gun really stand up apart from the obvious one - "I like guns, and I like them more than I like unmurdered kids"
Nothing says back to school time more than the smell of gunpowder.
Fuck'n-ell-m8! I mean, true...but savage.
"There is nothing we can do to stop this!" says only country where this happens.
I stole this:
"Well-Regulated Militia Opens Fire In Apalachee High School In Winder, Georgia; Cheap Thoughts And Useless Prayers Now Being Rushed To The Scene ... more on this soon-to-be-forgotten-and-then-repeated story as it develops ..."
The latest shows as 4 dead, over 30 injured (as of about 5 minutes ago).
Terrifying, depressing, and entirely preventable. I truly despise those who think guns are more important than kids.
School's started in the USA
Prediction: It will come out that the shooter used an AR-15 with a bump stock. The usual ammosexuals will come out of the woodwork exclaiming how we can't possibly ban either.
Edit: Confirmed to be an AR-15.
I don't like speculating about shootings before the blood dries, but I'm curious to hearing about and from the shooter, and how the gun was obtained, specifically if it was obtained legally or illegally.
Those kids needed guns to defend themselves. It's clear that the best way to solve the firearms problem is to give more firearms so people with firearms can defend from people with firearms.
I wonder if there might be some kind of flaw in my reasoning...
It feels so weird as an american walking around a foreign country and not being concerned about a mass shooting.
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Ah the “back to school special” Fucking tragedy
Tragedy, AKA just a Wednesday in the good'ole USofA?
I split my time between Wyoming and Florida. Normally, in Wyoming, I hike alone in forests full of wolves, grizzly bears, mountain lions, and territorial moose with nothing but a can of bear spray and a little bell. In Florida I go to dinner with a concealed 6-1 .45ACP pistol loaded with high velocity 230 grain hollow points.
PS: To all foreigners reading this; the US is not one big "active shooter" zone or high crime area. Most of it is super chill and friendly. It's just that when it isn't chill, it goes full gore and we are mostly desensitized to it at this point. (Definitely not a brag)
Problem is i (we) mostly hear about the us from tv or shows or news. So we mostly see the shit, because somehow thats entertainment. I dont believe everyone in the usa is fucknuts but i must admit it does make me think twice about going to the us, well that and i have to be at the airport 5 fucking hours before boarding. Oh and i definitely dont want to end up in the hospital for a slinky pinky or somthing and be broke the rest of my life.
But still it happens a LOT. Maybe best to hike with wolfs ;)
Repeal the 2A already and replace it with sane gun laws.
Guns are already illegal to possess in schools...
Good thing that's working out.
This feels like a time loop at this point of seeing the same problem over and over and nobody wants to ever take any steps to change the outcome.
People want to stop this, they just all disagree about what needs to be done, so nothing gets done.
Burchett said that "we", as is the legislative branch, are not going to fix it. He didn't say he didn't want it fixed.
Now, I disagree with him as I suspect you do too. But that's no excuse to warp someone's argument into something it's not.
“If you want to legislate evil, it’s just not going to happen,” Burchett said. "We need a real revival in this country. Let’s call on our Christian ministers and our people of faith.”
in other words, "thoughts and prayers," and in other other words, "i don't want it fixed" because if prayers aren't stopping a shooting at a christian school, then surprise surprise: prayers and faith and ministers are worse than useless, they pretend to be a solution where they're actually a hindrance
No, it's not the same as saying they don't want it fixed. I think that he is woefully wrong, even negligently wrong. But I don't need to misconstrue his stance or argument to think that.
ok dude. there is absolutely nothing to suggest that the GOP wants to fix the gun problem. NOTHING. that includes whatever tf his name is in TN
but go on thinking they do. have fun
Fact: Tim wants to fix the UFO problem more than the gun problem.
i'm sure there are plenty of not-problems that he desperately wants to fix. i know nothing about the guy, but i'm willing to bet he sees gay books in the library as a dire threat to the children which needs to be corrected immediately
You're still misrepresenting their stance. They don't believe there's a "gun problem". That doesn't mean they want children to die.
That doesn’t mean they want children to die.
please bro, are you trolling? why are we having to differentiate between "wanting" kids to die and giving absolutely no shits if they do? the result is the same.
you are right about one thing: kids being killed by guns over and over and over is less of a problem to them than CRT or drag queens. honestly i couldn't care less if they don't think it's a problem. IT IS a problem, just like global warming, corrupt scotus, trump's lies, and anything else they deny the existence of. fuck them.
but again, seriously: if someone's not willing to do a single goddamn thing to prevent kids being killed by guns, then what the fuck difference does it make whether they "want kids to die" or not?
No, I'm not trolling, and the fact that you think that I am is part of the problem. This will be my last message to you. Whether you like it or not, they do not agree with you on how to stop children from being killed by gun violence. Just because they don't agree with you or me on how to do it, doesn't mean they don't want to do it. This was the entire point that started this convo: they do not agree on the how.
No one wants these massacres, it's just that no one can agree on the how to stop them. That's what the original premise was.
To be able to reach a consensus with other people, it's important to be able to understand their stance and beliefs. Misrepresenting them does nothing but drive a deeper wedge between the two sides.
Too bad those columbine shitfucks started this trend. I wonder if we’d have this problem if that never happened. It was probably only a matter of time. Anyways, fuck this reality, more pointless deaths because ‘muh guns’.
School Massacre are nothing new in the US.
The deadliest school-killing in American history was in 1927, killing 38 children and 6 adults and wounded about 60 more. The killer was the school board treasurer and had spent the previous few months buying and stealing dynamite around his farm and the school as well as his truck.
The difference since Columbine is the celebration of mass shootings. The media makes celebrities out of the killers and make graphics breaking down the planning, supplies, tactics, and more. They're essentially helping the next maniac plan a "better" killing.
Yeah, they are kinda new in the way that they're a goal, not a one-off standalone act of petty revenge. Nobody trended blowing up schools after that. After a quick look at wikipedia for a list of school massacres we had less than one per decade after the 1927 event, then a half-dozen in the '90s, now 21 or so since '00.
So I don't know that I agree that they're "nothing new" because that's such a grim and arbitrary undefined way to put it. How few would there have to be to make them new by the context of the specified 1927 event?
I think I agree with the person you responded to - partly...because there was already an uptick in school killings in the '90s, however the Columbine massacre certainly sits on a point that marks a definite change from a half-dozen in a decade to a solid ten per decade, or at least one per year, and the apparent use of schools as a target in the eyes of the killers.
One big difference is that one was done by an adult. Now we are faced with a whole bunch of kids who are fucked in the head with far more advanced weaponry compared to 1927. Yet the adults keep ignoring the kids and despite all previous warnings, continue to let it happen. If your child was already previously being investigated for threatening to shoot up a school, then you damn well better help them. Sell your guns and use the money to get them some therapy. If you get calls saying there are going to be shootings, you don't sit there with your thumb up your ass until a bunch of people get massacred, yet that is exactly what happened.
The indifference, apathy, media sensationalism, and bullshit thoughts and prayers just make it worse. As soon as the media stops talking about it, it may as well never happened. Maybe some sob piece months later from the parents, but those are barely a footnote. Our country is fucked. Darkest timeline.
I am so sick of this shit.
I hope that the suspect "stumbled and fell on his face" a lot while in custody.
And to all news media... Please do not print, post or broadcast the suspect's name. Do not give them the hard-on they are looking for by having their name in the news.
I mean we did give the republicans a fix that would have done away with all mass school shootings, as well as saved taxpayers huge amount of tax cuts money, broke the teachers unions by allowing offshoring of teaching, decreased critical thinking skills nationwide, and forced women out of the workforce and back to being barefoot and pregnant in the kitchens;
But they rejected Zoom schooling.
I think unions are the only thing keeping the education system from collapsing under MBA cancer.
