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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I went on Reddit yesterday for the first time since the strike, whilst trying to debug a code issue. Almost every post from years old questions had the replies deleted by the users. I think the real damage will be the deletion of content and the change in tone from redditors. Most useful discourse will be gone and it will turn into a place only for arguing, memes and shit posting. Advertisers aren't going to want to pay to advertise on low quality content like that.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I truly feel most of the 3rd party app users were the more level headed folks in the userbse. For the most part we were users there since before reddit had an app when good discourse took place. We're taking that discourse with us and I anticipate further deterioration of reddit. More akin to Facebook style toxicity and echo chambering. I'm sad to see it because overall that's a net loss for humanity/the internet. But I like it here.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Punishing future searchers is what has me conflicted about wiping everything. I have an 11 year account. I have no idea how many times my troubleshooting was correct for various issues or howany times my anecdotal incidents could match for someone else.

xkcd: Wisdom of the Ancients

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/wisdom_of_the_ancients.png

Rollover: "All long threads should have a globally editable post stickied to the top saying" DEAR FUTURE USERS, here's what we've learned so far"

Since I didn't figure out image embedding, here's the regular link https://xkcd.com/979/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i wont wipe my reddit account because i dont want to destroy the posts i made.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The Reddit board are profiting off you though, your knowledge in those searches has value and you see zero while.spez and co get millions. Try to get it off Reddit.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

True, plenty of the useful posts, advice, opinions will be lost. Unfortunately i don't think Reddit will suffer much for it, eventually spez will get his IPO, and possibly have moderators replaced by paid staff and/or bots. Life will go on there almost certainly for the worse. Social media and the monetization of people win again. Edit: i deleted my posts, comments, and account there. Same as Facebook and Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I totally believe this. Exactly zero of the 11K subscribers of the sub I mod have followed me over to the fediverse--despite a third of them 'supporting' the idea of keeping the sub dark.

Still deciding if I should just be an 'absentee mod' (not post anything personally, but keep things reasonably orderly) or let someone else mod it and move on. I just cant, in good conscience, 'return to normal'.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Reddit doesn't support you, your fellow users don't support you. Do right by yourself and stop giving free effort for no benefit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Do it wrong. Internal protest is the best protest.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I continued to look reddit for reasons, but honestly the feed is deteriorating fast, maybe traffic is back, people posting content, not so much, engagement? Even less, it's like looking to a old mediocre Google News feed.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Fine with me, found a good substitution here after 11 years of reddit

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Engagement is up because an algorithm optimized it.

The algorithm does not care if that engagement is negative or toxic.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I at least personally used to be a bit of a power user and have just stopped posting/upvoting/downvoting altogether, and I'm not even a mod.

Just because people show up does not mean people are engaged.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I've cut out Reddit, if lemmy dies my social media use dies with it.

I'll be here contributing to the community as long as everyone else is.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm more curious about how the numbers will look after they nix 3rd party apps. There's bound to be a dip after June 30.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Once Apollo is inactive, so am I.

I’ve been here 50% or more. Won’t be hard, lol. Idiots

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe it's the novelty here or something but I'm really enjoying Lemmy overall. Agreed switching over completely won't be difficult in the slightest

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There’s less comments, but also no low-effort jokes at the top for karma.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I actually forgot those were a thing in the week since I killed my reddit account! Every post getting bombed into oblivion with one-liners was crazy annoying.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

From what I have seen, traffic is down 9-10% now, which is quite significant.

https://www.similarweb.com/blog/insights/social-media-news/reddit-blackout/

Also the world has found out there are alternatives, so if mobile apps stop working or cost money by July, we may see a similar drop again.

What happens after that is hard to say. IMO reddit has steadily deteriorated compared to what it was 15 years ago. I miss the old reddit, what reddit is today I won't miss.

Reddit will probably survive, and that may be for the best for Lemmy too. As long as Lemmy stays sustainable, I think we are better off without most of the people who choose to stay with reddit. Because those are likely to also be the people who don't really care about values.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It depends what percentage of power users/content creators/OPs are in that 10%. Most online communities have a pretty lopsided compsition of posters vs. lurkers. If all posters move, the community will be eaten from the inside-out by repost bots.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I think the way reddit was going, quality content creators were already drowned out in many places.

We have a few bots here already making posts, I'm not sure how good or bad they are, but I'd prefer a site without bots. Where things are posted, because someone actually found it relevant here.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...normal or "hey, it's all good because we said so"?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah where is this data coming from?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It's going to dip again when third party apps are shut off. Personally I'm still browsing Reddit to check in on the drama on /r/ModCoord

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Obviously if PC Mag says it it must be true. /S

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I always said, redditors are good at complaining, but do nothing else.

r/workreform is one of the most popular subs, yet reddit's userbase can't even protest online properly.

Your work reform is never coming, plebbit. just saying.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Sadly, I think this is widely true about people in general. Actually commiting to change is so much harder than expressing dissatisfaction with your current state.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

except this is not "I gotta threaten to quit my job if it doesn't improve", "stop eating meat", or "switch to a bicycle instead of a car".

This is a "I gotta open a different app and start lurking there daily and occasionally post".

Switching to lemmy took me an hour. How difficult is this protest, really?

I mean, how much hope is there for humanity with that level of indifference/apathy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

*France enters the chat "The fuck we do"

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not I. I moved to Lemmy.world today. F that noise.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was an active member of reddit for over a decade. That ended during the blackout and I refuse to go back. I have blocked reddit at the router level to ensure they see no traffic from my network

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I had 11 years there. I do miss the interface and pure volume of content (235 subs as of a week ago), but I'm enjoying the conversations here which is the part that meant the most to me. I hate to see it go, but the fact is their app is shit and I use mobile, so when RiF goes im out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Returns to normal.... minus me, HA TAKE THAT SPEZ!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

When the quality of content drops on reddit , people will automatically move to Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Not for this user lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Too early to judge. Wait a month at least

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think when 3rd party app support drops on the 1st we'll see what to expect in the days to follow.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It isn't the 1st of July yet...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I dont care if it doesn't change. As long as this just slowly grows to a nice plateau ill be satisfied.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Minus me. I used that fancy script to change all my comments to a statement and I deleted all my posts.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When Apollo stops working, I will only be accessing Reddit via old.reddit.com

I refuse to use that shitshow of an ad riddled official app.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Stop accessing at all. You're still giving them traffic.

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