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The corporate media wasting no time on the fear campaign...

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[–] zurohki 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Without property investors in the market, there won’t be enough stock of rental properties

People seem to have this weird idea that those houses will just be set on fire or something, instead of being bought at lower prices by people who want to live in them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Yeah, generally property investors don't build shit.

[–] Taleya 1 points 1 month ago

They literally cannot comprehend other people owning houses to live in

[–] Mountaineer 11 points 1 month ago

Purnell Real Estate principal Nick Purnell, who bought an apartment in Canberra as an investment property in 2020, said people will stop investing in property if negative gearing is abolished.

Don't threaten me with a good time.
Investors, with their ability to outbid potential owner-occupiers are a significant component in the current rise in housing prices.
Those rising house prices are DIRECTLY related to the raising rent prices.

Negative gearing was implemented to achieve a change in the market, a large thumb on the scale by the government.
Now it's time to step back and reassess the market and figure out what we need to do to achieve our desired outcomes.

Million dollar plus shoe boxes, whole suburbs dominated by short term rentals, people using the 15% equity on their 4 investment property to back a 5th in a giant house of cards gamble are NOT HELPING.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So this guy is paying $500/mo for this property over the income it generates and the only reason this works out is negative gearing? I have a hard time believing he's not at least breaking even on rent charged over a mortgage, he's not telling the whole story there, or he grossly overpaid for the property.

[–] zero_gravitas 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm wondering where on earth he's getting the "$70,000 loss" figure from. House prices in Sydney are not down from 2017...

[–] TheHolm 1 points 1 month ago

Look how much any maintenance/repairs costs now. It may be true.

[–] kowcop 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I will wait and see the policy.. if they are grandfathering and limiting new investors to a single property, I don’t see who would be negatively impacted by any change

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Shorten's plan included grandfathering in and the media just lied about that part, trotting out pensioners with one investment property etc.

[–] maniacalmanicmania 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] zero_gravitas 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Huh, I didn't think the Wayback Machine de-paywalled, cheers! (EDIT: Ah, I see now that SMH just has a free-articles limit.) I've changed the link to the Wayback snapshot since I prefer it when possible.

No security warning for the archive.is link for me, on Firefox or Chrome 🤷‍♀️ Was it flagged by an extension or something?

[–] maniacalmanicmania 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] zero_gravitas 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Huh, weird. Possibly a problem with your Firefox install, or even an anti-virus thing apparently: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1444114

[–] maniacalmanicmania 2 points 1 month ago

Renaming cert9.db for the profile that had the issue so that Firefox recreates it did the trick. Thanks.

[–] Taleya 3 points 1 month ago

Greedy pig boys can suck my balls. We're in a castastrophic inequity crisis because of their actions

[–] oahi 2 points 1 month ago

Oh, boo-hoo. His kids can inherit the home they grew up in and buy their own, by this time not over-priced, home once they've the income.

[–] Longmactoppedup 2 points 1 month ago

Be very surprised if labor changes direction before the election.

As much as I would like to see negative gearing limited to new builds only and capital gains tax discounts removed entirely.