this post was submitted on 28 Sep 2024

204 points (98.1% liked)

News

23310 readers

4858 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil

Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.

2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.

Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.

3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.

Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.

4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.

Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.

5. Only recent news is allowed.

Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.

6. All posts must be news articles.

No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.

7. No duplicate posts.

If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.

8. Misinformation is prohibited.

Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.

9. No link shorteners.

The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.

10. Don't copy entire article in your post body

For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

204

A TV reporter was doing a live hurricane report when he rescued a woman from a submerged car (apnews.com)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

20 comments fedilink hide all child comments

A TV weather reporter in Atlanta interrupted his live shot about Hurricane Helene Friday to rescue a woman from a vehicle stranded by rising floodwaters.

In video of the rescue, standing in the rain with the submerged vehicle behind him, FOX Weather meteorologist Bob Van Dillen describes how the woman drove into a flooded area.

He says he has called 911, and she can be heard screaming as he tries to assure her that help is on the way. Then he says to the camera: “It’s a situation. We’ll get back to you in a little bit. I’m going to see if I can help this lady out a little bit more you guys.”

Van Dillen is then seen wading through the water with the woman on her back, carrying her to safety.

top 20 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This article is weird. For one thing, the last sentence quoted is just confusing:

Van Dillen is then seen wading through the water with the woman on her back, carrying her to safety.

Who's the "her" in that sentence? Anyway, the really confusing part is that they then consulted with an expert on journalistic ethics:

It’s clear that while he had a professional obligation to report the news, “there’s also someone whose potential life is at risk,” Vincent said. “So I think the call he made is a human call.”

Considering the rising waters and the woman’s cries for help, along with not knowing when help would arrive, “it’s a straightforward case of jumping in — a fellow citizen actually helping another,” Vincent said.

Why is the writer explaining this basic concept like I'm an alien? Sometimes, people stop doing their job for a few moments to save somebody's life even though that's not what their job entails. That's interesting. Are the humans then punished for their dereliction of duty?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

The "her back" thing I think is a typo. Unless I misheard I think the embedded video also includes a reporter recapping and saying "he's got her on her back" too, so maybe the write up is carrying over that reporter misspeaking.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

The last bit about journalistic ethics is because journalists aren’t supposed to get involved in the news they are reporting. Think “nature documentary.” E.g. a war correspondent isn’t supposed to intervene in combat to help someone in trouble. Obviously this wasn’t a war zone, and I think that’s more of a guideline than a rule.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Easy, it could be the reporter was riding on her back like a paddleboard

or pulling her along while she floated on her back like a floaty toy.

Or the reporter was an illegal alien who's gender was reassigned.

Don't overthink it

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry... you're asking why the person who wrote the article is quoting the reporter who did the rescue? Because that's basic journalism.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Look, I absolutely hate to do the reading comprehension thing but you've misread both the article and my comment on it. The reporter who performed the rescue was Fox's Bob Van Dillen. The person quoted, however, is Subramaniam Vincent, director of journalism and media ethics at the Markkula Center for Applied Ethics at Santa Clara University. The writer of this AP article quoted Vincent who recounted the situation. The writer also added some additional context to Vincent's remarks which serve to explain the concept of rescuing a person who is crying out for help.

So ... sorry ... no. I'm not asking that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

As a fellow vagrant I approve this message.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (5 children)

That woman had zero survival instinct. She was sitting in her car as the water rose, like once you're waist deep in your car, maybe unbuckle and try to get on the roof or preemptively open a door before the pressure traps it shut. My God.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

Lots of people panic when they are in a situation they never planned for before. We live such routine and safe lives most people have never been in a survival situation and they lock up or make bad decisions.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

This was exactly my thought as I read and reread this paragraph several times trying to figure out if I was getting it wrong.

“She was in there, she was still strapped into her car and the water was actually rising and getting up into the car itself, so she was about, almost neck deep submerged in her own car.”

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

I agree but until you're in the same situation you have no idea what you'll do.

brain chemistry is weird and makes you do the dumbest things in dangerous situations.

monkey brain goes brrrrrrr.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Yeah, it's pretty hard to wrap your head around, especially hearing she was neck-deep by the time he got to her. I'm guessing she didn't feel physically capable of making it onto the roof and worried if she climbed out of the car's interior she'd get swept away faster.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Adrenaline with completely fuck up your higher brain functions, unless you've trained to cope with it. Its default effects are fight, flight, freeze or fawn. She went into freeze. She likely didn't want to make matters worse, and couldn't think it through, due to the adrenaline spike.

A rather dark survey I heard about years ago. Researchers couldn't find anyone who has self rescued from a submerged car, who hadn't planned for the eventuality. They had all worked out what to do if that happened to them. Many of the deaths had claw marks on the dashboard, and sometimes they hadn't even gotten their seat belts off. In the moment, their monkey brain couldn't even plan that far.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Kudos to the guy for doing the right thing, but lets be real here. What else was he going to do, just keep rolling?

"The waters have risen to the roof of her car, and her screams seem to have stopped now. This indicates these are very dangerous floodwaters folks, and I'll say again that it is recommended that you never..."

All that aside, still humansbeingbros.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean, maybe. But flood waters are a massive deathtrap. He had to have known at any second he could step into a strong current and be sucked under. He had no rope. No support. Dude's a hero.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Anytime there is an unknown like this and you put yourself in danger, regardless of how small it might be perceived, to help another human being, you did a very brave thing. That dude is awesome.

It sorta makes up that he works for fox… 🤪. I keed I keed. Seriously though… dude is a hero.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah, that's a good point, I didn't think of that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Incredible, ambulance chacer/opportunistic weatherman finds humility...more at 9 @ FOX.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sploosh?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

"My God, it's a swamp in here!"

"Not usually, no. It's just the flood."

"I meant in my pants."

"Well ye you're drenched, from the flood."