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[–] [email protected] 216 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Amusing, clever, but extremely fake.

This is a GE Café CFE28/CYE22 refrigerator and it definitely does not run Windows. You can use its little LCD screen as a digital photo frame, though, and there's a USB port for that purpose tucked beneath the lower edge of the bezel under the buttons. Somebody's just made an image of this fake "Windows update" screen and put it in the photo frame rotation.

[–] [email protected] 133 points 1 month ago (4 children)

still more tech than it needs

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Don't know why the downvotes. You are absolutely correct.

My fridge doesn't even have a screen, but it has wifi. Wifi!! You do one thing. You are a box designed to keep my food cold. I set the temperature, and I forget that exists.

Anyway, we bought it when we bought our house. The previous owner offered to include all the appliances in the contract so it was nice to not have to buy any appliances. But that refrigerator stays OFF my network.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

but think of all the frosty bitcoins you could be mining!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

~~you~~ some botnet operator could be mining

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I know the real objective is mining your data and acting as an insecure node for identity thieves to access. But what is its stated objective? I have no idea why anyone would think that is a positive.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Indeed, you're better off buying a dumb fridge and attaching your own iot device amiright

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It just sits there, silently plotting revenge...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

“The minute I see an unprotected WiFi your personal data is soooo screwed.”
— the fridge, probably

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I'm OK with it for some things tbh. With a wifi fridge for example I can know if it stops working and the temp starts rising before I have a fridge full of spoiled food. With an oven I can know if I left the house with it still running. With the washer/dryer I can get notified when I need to fold the cloths before they get wrinkled. I think connected appliances have more useful applications than people give them credit for.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Something that might happen once in ten years isn't worth the additional security surface exposure. IMO

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I have a small child. It's not just mechanical failure. Then again, I've got a separate network for IoT things. They can't see anything by each other and their controller. Unfortunately, most of the IoT appliances do NOT like this setup.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What security exposure? Any modern router has a way to isolate iot devices. I'm risking people knowing when I open my fridge?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Most people wouldn't bother.

And the risk would be more a foothold into your network as a staging point to attack other devices, as I'm sure you know .

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

With a wifi fridge for example I can know if it stops working and the temp starts rising before I have a fridge full of spoiled food

A built in alarm sound would achieve the same goal without running the risk of your fridge becoming part of a botnet

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Alarm is going to have to be pretty loud for me to hear it many miles away.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The notification on your phone or whatever also isn't super useful if you're many miles away.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure it is. I have family friends and neighbors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

K, but if you're expecting someone to be at your home to immediately inspect your malfunctioning refrigerator, then we're back to an audible alarm being just as good

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're making up a hypothetical situation where it might not work. I've literally done this and my brother saved hundreds of dollars of food from spoiling while I was on vacation by moving it to his fridge/freezer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm glad it worked out for you in that one instance, but I'm not worried enough about my fridge breaking down to where I need to constantly monitor it remotely. Refrigerators are an incredibly old, well developed, reliable technology. The added hassle of an Internet connection isn't worth it to me. If it is to you then fine, but your single anecdote is worth about as much as my hypotheticals, unless we're talking about some novel, untested refrigeration technology.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My anecdote at least happened. Your hypothetical by definition never did. The internet connection I haven't thought about since I installed the fridge. Not sure where the hassle is.

Also I don't understand why you think refrigerators are incredibly reliable. Compressor pumps and start capacitors are damn near consumables now days.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, honestly I don't want to have to stress about something that can't be fixed and might otherwise ruin a day out or vacation.

If my dog dies don't tell me till I'm back from vacation kinda thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Get a bigger speaker

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (8 children)

With a wifi fridge for example I can know if it stops working

You can also do that with a simple smart plug with energy monitoring. You can get a 4 pack for $35.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

With a wifi fridge for example I can know if it stops working and the temp starts rising before I have a fridge full of spoiled food.

You don't need a wifi fridge for this. My wife and I manage this via Home Assistant and cheap Switchbot sensors. Fully self contained on my network, nothing to phone home anywhere.

The rest of the things you listed are kind of silly. If you left the oven on, that sucks, but you're already gone. Also, who sets the oven on before leaving the house? That's just an odd... like, really odd thing to do. Like, senility/dementia level odd, at which point what difference is a notification? And the dryer thing... well, that's nothing a 15 minute wrinkle cycle doesn't already solve on a dumb dryer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"not that iot device, use this one instead and get less function out of it"

Wrinkle cycles don't work as well as getting the laundry while it's still hot. It reduces it some but not as much as getting the laundry when it's still hot. It also wastes a fair bit of energy to run the dryer for another 15 minutes instead of just telling me when it's done.

And it's not a dementia thing, it's an adhd+generalized anxiety thing. Piece of mind is pretty valuable to me and mine.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

But if you get the app you can unlock the crisper drawer+ for only $11.99/mo and get those extra fresh veggies that you crave!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

To be fair, making a device wifi connected is stupid cheap nowadays. That being said, you bet your ass they're harvesting data.

My parents got a fridge with a similar feature and no screen (they didn't know it had that) but I was curious and hooked it to the IOT network. Literally the only smart feature it exposed was a door open sensor...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

not advocating for all IoT products, but some fridges have internal cameras (allows you i remotely access and figure out what you have and dont have), and some also have product expiring tracking so that it can warn you if something is approaching thr best buy date so you can use it up soon or throw it away.

washer and dryer IoT projects to me tend to be pretty terrible.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But but but but but this is our "upmarket" model and we need some kind of rationalization to upsell people to it over the Profile PFE28/PYE22 which is the same fucking refrigerator mechanically minus the screen and with different handles, but this one costs 30% more.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Doesn’t even have AI, how am I supposed to know what to eat

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

You know a lot about refrigerator models

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We ran out of things we need about the time we learned how to filter water and grow wheat.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm ok with the further progress into antibiotics, vaccines, surgery, all that good stuff.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I'd be a cripple if not for our progress with surgery. I'm very glad to live in an era of modern medicine.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Apparently, some politician tried to shutdown the patent office in the nineteenth century because "everything that can be invented has been invented."

edit: no need for "I" there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Other than keeping things cold, the only tech a fridge needs is a light and a way to see inside without opening the door; which we resolved decades ago by simply using a window, but fridges like that haven't existed since, like, the 60's or so.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You can use its little LCD screen as a digital photo frame

Whhhhhhhyyyyyyy

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

So you can run Doom on it, duh.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I just wanted some water...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I have to admit I would like to do the same with my fridge.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

You may be right, however windows iot does in fact exist, and this is what the update screen looks like.

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/products/windows-iot

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Updating

Windows

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