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[–] [email protected] 84 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I mean...

All of those mini consoles (NES mini, SNES mini) are already SOCs with an emulator.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Corps are shameless. No amount of hypocrisy is enough to make them reconsider their evil.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The Switch has a SNES emulator as well

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The 3ds was a full on emulation machine. Heck it started with the Wii!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

I'd say it started on at least Nintendo 64. The original Japan-only Animal Crossing game for N64 had playable, emulated Famicom (NES) games. Nintendo even ran a special offer to get an N64 Controller Pak with Ice Climber pre-loaded which you could plug into your controller like a game cartridge and play inside Animal Crossing.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (16 children)

Just for the record, this is exactly what any museum would do, because they're not going to actually run anything on the original hardware. Those systems are part of the collection, and it behooves a museum to not put any wear on them.

Also because emulators can be managed remotely.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 weeks ago

Any other museum wouldn't be a hypocrite for doing so.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

In other words, emulators are crucial for game preservation? This shows that Nintendo knows that, and when they say it's not the case, they're not simply wrong, they're lying.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (18 children)

That is highly depending on the type of Museum. Many Videogame and Computer Museums (at least in Germany) are showing the real Hardware running, some are even allowing the visitors to use and play at the old machines. And yes, they are often very used to repairing the hardware too.

I would expect from Nintendo that they would show and use real hardware in their museum, and not some emulators. Because I can see the games on an emulator at home (for example using my Switch Online or my SNES Classic), I don't need a museum for that experience.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

This is a "Museum" run by Nintendo in Japan. Meaning they could have used or even created more original hardware to run the titles, but instead cut costs by using the same Emulators that they're hoping to take down.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

Eww extremely embarrassing that they used Windows.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I would not be at all surprised if the Switch NES and SNES emulators are running an open source emulator that they've tried to shut down.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago

Throwback to the NES Classic ROM having a ripper/uploader’s signature in the game code. Because Nintendo didn’t ever bother archiving their own games, and just downloaded ROMs from the same sites they were trying to shut down.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

pull a WordPress and force a TOS in the license to say you cannot be affiliated with Nintendo in any way in order to use this software.

they want to emulate their hardware? then they can build their own emulator.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I believe they do have their own emulator. It logically would be what powers the Nintendo arcade

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

folks thought the same for the Genesis and Atari flashbacks but some tinkering found they were using FOSS emulation. IMO FOSS projects should start charging companies that use their products dependent on scale.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Nintendo: Emulation is illegal, criminal, and you should never ever do it. If you do, we will sue your ass, send the Pinks, and then shit fury on you!!!

Also Nintendo:


Needless to say, I will not be buying an alarm clock today.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

That's not at all Nintendo's philosophy.

They literally included emulation starting with the wii

So it is more of a rules for thee but not for me situation. Not you should never ever do it but you should only do it on our hardware with our emulators

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

I was joking when in a previous post about the museum I said it better not run on any emulators..

So.. Why aren't they selling said emulators and roms? I ain't gonna travel half the world to play one in an overpriced museum.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Um... they are, and have been for almost 20 years, since the Wii. Or the N64 depending on how you look at it.

What did you think Virtual Console was? How about the NES and SNES mini? What about the "Nintendo Game Pass" or whatever they're calling it?

Animal Crossing's original Japan release had NES games in it, and so did the GC rerelease/psuedosequel we got internationally too.


Even better: During the Wii era, the Wiis at the Nintendo Store in New York City ran official Nintendo made software to load games off a connected hard drive, so you could play multiple of their new releases without workers having to switch discs.


It has always been about attempts to prevent piracy and keep control over how people access their games for Nintendo, and they are roughly 10 years behind the curve on modern tech trends.

Either stop supporting them or get used to it.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I can see Nintendo shutting down his own museum for piratery.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

if its under GPL couldn't they be forced to disclose the source code?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Only if they made modifications

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago

So you admit that emulation is the best way to preserve old forms of interactive media?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe the emulator maker should sue

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But they own it. I thought even I could download a ROM if I have the actual game no?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

No, at least in the US, you can only back up your own ROM if you own the game, not download someone else's backup. The real problem here is that Nintendo's (idiotic) stance is ALL emulation/backups are piracy and here they are being hypocrites about it.

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