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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

All this is a path to a police state.

In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

That's the solution.

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NYPD is hiring "Homeless Services Police" and ramping up "enforcement" against the unhoused. Just got this email from NYC HRA. (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 week ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is a listing for someone who is going to function as a security guard at an emergency shelter and has nothing to do with enforcement. Of note, NYC knocks it out of the park with shelter capacity, something like 90% of their unhoused population is in shelter, whereas in my city it's closer to 30%. NYC homeless services beat the pants off most other cities

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Security guards at homeless shelters are the enforcement. That’s the problem.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

sigh

Can't even get the grammar correct.

blah blah blah we are looking for officers who will:

Giving routine information to blah blah

Give. They will GIVE. Every other bullet point has the right verb tense.

New York City Cops... they ain't too smart.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Fucking pigs

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

The pay's shit for a city like New York. Are they sure these positions wouldn't make the officers risk becoming homeless themselves?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let's arrest all the homeless people, put them in jail, give them huge fines that they can't pay, let them out, then put them back in jail when they can't pay the fines. Yeah, that'll fix everything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Not to defend these pigs at all, but NYC is probably one of the best cities and how it treats its unhoused population. We have a huge amount of shelters, there’s an enormous amount of public assistance available, free healthcare, and a mandate that no one should be turned away when requesting temporary shelter housing. Especially during the winter.

That being said, it’s obvious that the NYPD and the Adams administration are trying to appease conservatives “for some reason.”

I blame the rollout of ranked choice voting without a comprehensive public education campaign on how it works. Most people voting through the primaries only chose one candidate rather than five of their top choices, and that is how Eric Adams became the Democratic nominee. Kathryn Garcia was the obvious better pick, and she lost out because people didn’t understand how ranked choice voting worked when they first started it during that last election.

So, clearly education is very important, particularly when it comes to how someone is going to cast their vote. Otherwise, horrible mistakes can obviously happen.

Edit: lots of spelling fixes, wow

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

lol. Apparently some people don't like you and your facts interrupting the jerking.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Sounds like they're doing better in New York than California. Our governor has decided just to lock everybody up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

NYC is the best place to be poor and/or unhoused. New Yorkers - despite the reputation for being assholes - actually care about their fellow New Yorkers. I’m proud of that.

Yes, it could always be better, and there are plenty of bad actors who try to sabotage efforts at helping, try to shame us all for caring… but, despite our gruff exterior, New Yorkers are good people who want better for everyone. Just look at the outrageous taxes we’re (mostly) happy to pay— because we see every day how it helps everyone.

FYI, most people think we’re assholes because we’re always running late and stressed out.

Pro tip: are you at Times Square and want a pic taken? Are you in the LES or SoHo and a bit lost? Make sure the person you ask for help is NOT walking by at Mach 3. They’re running late, and it’s rude to hold them back. But there’s always plenty of people standing/sitting around who will gladly (and politely) take your group photo, provide directions, even help navigate the subway. The key is “don’t bother/stop people who look like they’re in a hurry.” Plenty of others are around and happy to help.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

California has a veneer of progressive politics.

The California government does just enough to not upset Californians who are detached from reality and satiate Californians that have money and hate the former.

Tax surplus from weed sales? Refund instead of address homelessness in any meaningful way. Build a homeless shelter? Vocal voters say no, so we won't. You can't afford to take your car to a shop? You can't work on your car in your driveway because we love the ~~GDP~~ environment.