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'They Know Who You Are': Harvard Students Use Meta's Ray-Ban Glasses To Pull Up Your Identity In Real-time (www.ibtimes.co.uk)
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Harvard students used Ray-Ban Meta smart glasses to demonstrate how easily facial recognition technology can reveal personal details like names and addresses, raising serious privacy concerns.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 6 days ago (3 children)

As someone who gets greeted alarmingly often by people whose names I ought to remember but don't (I'm a minor community leader but am bad with names), I've wanted a device like this for 20+ years. I'm a little sad about the concept being vilified.

On the other hand, as an advocate for both privacy and Free Software, I always imagined it as being completely self-hosted and only adding people's names/faces to its database when I'm introduced to them in person. I'm not at all sad about the particular implementation being vilified.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

This reminds me of Watchdogs the game. Thought this was scary and cool at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

People have survived without tools like this for thousands upon thousands of years. I think we can afford to wait a few more until there’s a privacy-respecting method behind it. I know we won’t, but I’m sure we could have.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

As someone who is bad sat names but has a more social ex, same here. There are so many people I come across that ought to know. I probably come across as rude or aloof because I’m bad at faces and names

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Dumb, click bait article.

This is about PimEyes, and databases that hoard facial recognition data, not Meta or Rayban or smart glasses.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In my opinion, it's about both the databases and the hardware. Specifically if/when always-on cameras become socially acceptable to wear in public, then facial databases can be utilised.

Presently, I don't think it's socially acceptable to always be pointing a phone's camera at someone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Everyone having a FaceTime call does this. Every dash cam does this. Every Ring doorbell and self driving car does this. You can do this with a $10 usb pinhole webcam and an android phone or raspberry Pi.

The problem here is with facial recognition databases, not with people using cameras in public.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

You have allowed FreakBook to collect all your private data and photos of your face and body parts for so many years.

Now you are having questions when somebody actually uses them?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

This article focuses to much on the glasses/face recognition tech while the actual problem is the database with of personal information and its public accessibility.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This has nothing to do with Facebook or Rayban. This can be done with a webcam and a laptop from 2006.

The entire problem here is PimEyes and the fact that it's legal to collect and build a biometrics database in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I thought the comment was about "giving PimEyes training data via interacting with Facebook".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

PimEyes doesn't use images or data from Facebook or other social media.

It's a click bait article that's been regurgitating through the less informed part of the tech news world because it has Meta in its title and it sounds scary.

Actually good articles covering it would point out that the flaw is entirely a legislative one, where America and a large chunk of the world simply have zero privacy rights or protections.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I know this title is misleading. Sorry if I made a mistake, I just know that some facial recognition systems (including the one used in our cities) use data from multiple public sources including social media, so assumed this one was the same.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I haven't used or uploaded any photos of myself to Facebook in probably about 10 years. So I would be interested to know what it can find on me as I highly suspect I don't look the same as I did 10 years ago

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Probably all the photos of you that other people have posted.

Identifying you could be possible all the same.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

PimEyes does not use photos from Facebook or other social media.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Can you tag people if they don't have accounts?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well, I cannot, because I don't have an account there. I guess others can, but I don't know for sure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They have other ways. Cross site tracking etc. People without accounts on the platform itself still have profiles on the business side, which is a decent chunk of how they're making money.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Right but without tagging they can't do facial recognition can they.

What I'm saying is that if there's a photograph of me on Facebook and someone tags it and goes ah there's Bob Smith, does that that it's me or is that just a label that says Bob Smith?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Thats a good point as far as your visual identity being exposed to other fb users. However, with where facial recognition is at now, they're sure to be able to match that and your identity on their business side with your (IRL) friends location data, cross site tracking and other data to effectively have a db of images of ‘you’. Whether or not they have a business use for it is another matter but not a stretch to see it as a part of the data harvesting and broking landscape, though I’m not sure of the value of images of you to them : perhaps demographic data for adsales. All speculation on my part, and I’m not sure where this would sit with regulation in various places. Just interesting to think about.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I wonder how much use is there in photos of you where you haven't been tagged (in addition to being bad quality). When it comes to better-quality, tagged ones - you can just ask people not to do so.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

They used PimEyes, nothing new.

Of importance: they do not want to release the tool but use it as a way to raise awareness.