A ridiculous ruling, but fortunately Virginia has same-day registration. So if you show up to vote and find you've been purged, you can immediately re-register.
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Will the poll workers volunteer that info or do you just have to know? I found out just a week ago that Texas will let you vote without an ID but you have to provide proof of residency, sign an attestation that says you can't reasonable acquire an ID, and you can fill out a provisional ballot.
Texas will let you vote without an ID but you have to provide proof of residency, sign an attestation that says you can't reasonable acquire an ID, and you can fill out a provisional ballot.
...and then they'll throw it out.
/s kinda
If the burden of proof is on the voter, most likely, then yeah, it pretty much won't get counted. If you could've proved it in the first place you probably would've just had an ID.
But wasn't citizenship checked when registering? This is the part that blows these anti-democratic lawsuits up as purely political and a way to hopefully remove enough people they think are going to vote Democrat. Otherwise what is to stop these people from re-registering on election day?
And I have seen tons of stories about the overworked poll workers needing to deal with these voter role challengers nonsense. They all say there are safe guards built into every layer of the system and this type of stuff does nothing but create more work for election officials and less secure/democratic elections.
But wasn't citizenship checked when registering?
To register in Virginia, you only need to fill out a form.
There is a box on the form to affirm your citizenship, but you do not need to present any documents that could be used to check your status.
Note that you must provide your Social Security number, if any, when applying to register to vote in Virginia. Therefore, if you do not provide your Social Security number, your application for voter registration will be denied. State and local voting officials will use your Social Security number as a unique identifier to insure that no person is registered in more than one place.
Again they already have checks in place and this is transparent tampering with voter rolls to help them in the election next week.
you must provide your Social Security number
I'm not sure what you mean by this. An SSN is not proof of citizenship, for example if you have a green card then you are eligible for Social Security but not eligible to vote.
Social Security Numbers for Noncitizens Generally, only noncitizens authorized to work in the United States by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) can get an SSN.
Yes, but in getting a SSN the government already knows your citizenship status, and so when the voter registration workers check your information your SSN I would think would allow them to confirm your status (or lack of SSN as a red flag). Again the checks are in place already, this is just Republicans working around the rules to get them what they want. And sure people can reregister, but at least some of these people are going to be disenfranchised now and not see it as "worth the hassle".
Edit - Also the SSN thing matters because of this quote from the article as the basis of this.
The state's plan flagged people for removal if they check a box on a Department of Motor Vehicles form declaring they are not a citizen or if they leave it blank.
From my link @ SSA above.
You don’t need an SSN to get a driver’s license, ...
So they are purposely using a form that means nothing to try and push their bad faith argument, and the Supreme Court just said "sure, why not!" instead of stopping them like the law and lower court said.
Just to be clear:
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Voter registration in VA has required the voter's SSN (if they have one) since 1971. It's actually written into the VA Constitution!
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Driver's licenses have required the driver's SSN (if they have one) since 1968
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Citizenship is on drivers license applications because of the Real ID Act, passed by Congress in 2005
So I don't think you can blame the current crop of MAGA idiots for collecting this information. I don't even necessarily blame anyone for trying to combine the datasets.
However, doing so less than 90 days before an election is absolutely unacceptable.
No, but it is identifying information. The government can use it to check information on you, which includes your citizenship status.
How many battleground states have same day registration?
According to https://www.democracydocket.com/analysis/which-states-offer-same-day-voter-registration-and-why-does-it-matter/
Washington, D.C. and most of the states with same-day registration — California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, Nevada, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin and Wyoming — make the process easy and accessible. However, a handful present obstacles.
Some states, including Michigan and Montana, don’t allow for same-day registration at polling places, only at other locations like city clerks’ offices or county election offices.
North Carolina only permits same-day registration during the early voting period, and New York is even more restrictive — only allowing it during the first day of early voting on Oct. 26.
New Hampshire has the opposite restriction — only offering Election Day registration.
Nevada, Wisconsin, and Michigan* have same day registration through election day
North Carolina has it only during early voting (ends Nov 2nd)
The rest of the battle ground states do not (i.e Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia)
Across the US, 23 states + DC have same day voter registration
* not at the polls in Michigan but at the clerk's office and then you can vote there after doing same day registration
That's neat, and it leaves me wondering why they even have voter registration ahead of time? I guess it saves time at the polls.
Because of course they did.
Fuck the supreme court
The SC fell TC years ago. They are traitorous to the people of the U.S.
TC?
It was 6-3. I think that was rather obvious though.
All the important rulings will be 6-3.
Oh look there’s Glenn “moderate republican” Youngkin pulling straight from Trump’s fascist playbook. Too bad it’s not going to make VA go red.
Remember this when Youngkin tries to run for president.
easiest way to fix this would be to stop making voting a state by state thing
as it stands now voting registration is done by the state and not recorded federally so a person in the US who holds multiple state identifications and addressees could be signed up to vote in more than one state since no nationwide log is done just state by state ones
easiest way to fix this would be to stop making voting a state by state thing
Maybe that's easy from a certain perspective, but passing the required constitutional amendment would be anything but.
easiest way to fix this would be to stop making voting a state by state thing
That would require several changes to the Constitution, which is not going to happen any time soon.
Looks like you just get to throw people off the register list when you like right before an election. What nonsense. These justices are garbage
They're not even trying to hide the fact that they're going to steal this election. Even if Harris somehow won 400 EVs, I'm convinced that SCOTUS would find a way to throw out enough votes to give Trump the win (even if it's just by throwing the election to the House).
It's only just begun! I have no doubt they have much more than this planned, and in place.
What happens if any of these people voted early already?
Gaaaaarrrrrr I fucking hate younkin!!!
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