....something, something, Bernie warned us about this in a video 20 years ago, something, something, status quo.....
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He would have won music video https://youtu.be/moNHfeBJ81I
Feel the Bern music video https://youtu.be/dzgBkpY-6mE
This would sit a lot better if he didnt sell out for a beach house from Hillary.
So why did you endorse it all Bernie? Washing your hands clean now as if nothing happened? Bernie is no better than the rest of the DNC.
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Alright this is gettin a bit much, Bernie endorsed all of this shit. The change he's talking about was on the ballot and he was pushing the conservative coddling moderate.
What else was he to do? Sometimes the lesser of 2 evils is the only choice.
Endorse an even lesser evil, perhaps even popular good? Why was Kamala the only person in the world that wasnt Trump?
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He specifically said he doesn't endorse it other than because on each topic, trump is worse.
You know who else trump is worse than? Everyone! Bernie, AOC, jill stein, cornell west, any progressive.
Yup! But only one person had enough votes to potentially beat trump, which is how the system is designed. I checked last night, and I don't remember the exact number, but Cornell West received something like 0.67% of the votes in my State. Knowing how the system works, we had one option to prevent a far right government, and it was a less right government. I didn't design the system, I just live in it.
No one had enough votes to beat trump, and no one had any votes before everyone decided to hold their nose and half-assed support a candidate no one liked. Yeah, West and Stein and any other potential progressive candidate did poorly, everyone here was actively breaking their knees to knock them out of the race. From daily, hourly propaganda against everything but their policy, to actually banning them from participating in states elections. Everyone here fought more against progressive candidates than they did trump.
Because they know how these things go. Everyone here is an even smaller percentage of Americans than the number of people who voted for West. You can't control the way that the average person is going to think and vote. But you can recognize it and try to support the lesser evil, or refuse to recognize it and maybe end up with the greater evil. Sorry, I don't make the rules, or it would have turned out very differently. Obviously a bunch of people said "I'm not voting for the lesser evil because of XYZ reason", so here we are with the greater evil.
They know how these things go? Its past tense now and we both know how things went. Your candidate that you don't even like lost astoundingly, thats how things went, thats the outcome all of you were pushing for.
If your candidate loses its voters fault, but if my candidate loses its the candidates fault. Your candidate was a piece of shit nobody liked, with an outcome people like me saw coming.
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For once I disagree with Bernie.
You can blame the DNC for being useless and out of touch but they always have been, nothing changed there. You can blame them for their shitty messaging and not listening to the concerns of working people ... ditto.
What changed in this election is that millions of people, who know Trump is a a liar, a criminal, a rapist, a narcissist ... I could go on and on. Well, they decided to vote for him because none of those negative traits were sufficiently off-putting.
This was a test of the collective character and morality of the nation and the United States failed that test miserably. Put it down to a poor standard of public education, Russian/Iranian/Chinese propaganda, accelerationism, racism, misogyny, whatever mix of reasons you're comfortable with. Could the DNC have done better? Absolutely. Would the DNC doing better have won the election for Harris? Probably not, given the margin of victory.
Nah, you’re wrong to blame the voters.
It’s time to take an honest look at DNC leadership and ask some difficult questions - why aren’t they interested in doing more to actually win votes? Will they ever learn that pandering to corporations for bribe money is a losing strategy?
Besides, Trump actually got fewer votes this time around than 2020. So your premise is flawed there too. It’s just that Harris and the DNC got way less. Dems lost this one and if you ask me it’s because of their Israel First policy and fierce commitment to ongoing genocide and denial of reality. Couple that with insane inflation directly and negatively impacting people's material conditions, and somehow Trump was able to pose as the change candidate. Politically, that’s all that matters when the people are miserable.
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buried deep in your comment is a reasonable criticism of his actions, but it's difficult to want to engage with that because of how smug and condescending your comment is.
What way have you found in the last 4 years to stop trump and what sucess did you have?
Stop giving bombs for genocide and stop telling people that the economy is already great so they should not ask for more and instead give popular policy positions that help people more than a week before the election/after early voting.