Reddit Migration

It hasn't even been two weeks. Let people get used to the platforms.

Difference instances are showing up slowly, so maybe instead of saying everyone needs to split up before communities and magazines have had a chance to mature even in the slightest, we slow down a little bit and support the hosts and developers we have now.

Or perhaps, look for new instances and report back on places folks can migrate to.

Hey, I think there's a lot of truth in that. I don't want to force anyone to stay here ;) I believe that kbin can be a stepping stone to a wider fediverse, which is great. However, I'm trying to keep the entry barrier as low as possible so that everyone can find their place here. The rest will come with time. Currently, we're working with contributors to make setting up and maintaining your own instance less of a nightmare, and it should change for the better soon.

https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/p/485886/This-happened-quickly-Lemmy-is-now-the-second-biggest-platform-next#post-comment-855115

ps. The queue of deleted accounts will be processed with the next update.

I've found it really beneficial joining an instance that's hosted locally to my country and/or city. Not only can you take advantage of the "Local" filter to literally see local posts in your area, but you also get an amazing ping so everything feels super responsive.

Hey! Hey hey hey! No! I JUST moved away from Reddit! Now you're telling me I need to move into an even smaller place than this? Can we space out our social media crises a bit? I'm still winded from the Dutch douchebag buying Twitter.

I've been thinking about setting up a single-user instance of kbin for myself. Maybe this is the kick in the pants I need to finally get around to it.

The general consensus is that this was going to be a monetary offer to allow Instagram to further colonize the Fediverse by purchasing one of the larger servers.

No, that's completely wrong. You're scaremongering. There was no such offer.

There is no confirmation of any financial contracts, or moderation arrangements and Eugen Rochko/Gargron has stated he doesn't know anything about any secret deals.[1]

From @[email protected]:

The nda wasn’t because of some absurd agreement but just the fact they’re launching a new project and we’re getting access to engineers and product team to discuss what the relationship could be. And they went well.[2]

There was a call to talk about engineering, moderation, safety, support for user privacy controls and how federation would look like. (and more)

There was no deal signing or any bullshit like that - that’s all fake news.

The nda is because none of this stuff is released and it’s up to meta to share details or admins to join the ongoing calls to learn in advance of launch what is going on.[3]

We don’t know, what we don’t know. So i initiated contact and meta obliged. Because the product isn’t released yet, there is an NDA.[4]

I agree. I have an account on kbin that is my primary account, but I also have one on lemmy and mastodon.

Some other instances can be found here. It doesn’t list these three instances: kbin.cafe, feddit.online, and fedia.io.

Honestly this is a pretty small community. The whole platform needs to mature a little before we start “spreading out”

The funny part about this story is that, while everyone has their "price", most of the people building these instances did so because they want nothing to do with these corporations.

Now admittedly things can change, but these corporations also don't seem to understand how these insurances work. Buying one instances, while shitty and something that hopefully won't happen, isn't the same as buying a company. You can't "own" the Fediverse because of the nature of what it is.

People need to just chill out and touch some grass.

Like how long have you been on the internet? If the whole federation thing can be bought out by a company and ruined, then it's a failed experiment and we move on to the next thing. It's a tale as old as the internet itself, cool grassroots thing gets popular, sells out, destroys itself, repeat every few years.

For now, kbin and lemmy are working, but don't think this will last forever or won't get tested. Either the concept is good and it will stand the test of corporate takeover, or it won't and we try something else.

When I joined kbin.social it was the only kbin instance. Or at least the only one that was actually online at the time.

When there's a way to migrate accounts I'll definitely look into moving somewhere else, though, for the sake of load balancing if nothing else.

For those who are interested in a different Kbin instance I joined Kbin.cafe the other day. It’s very small right now and has some good hardware running it I believe. Not many magazines/communities but of course we can browse others from any instance.

It runs smoothly too since low traffic. I love the fediverse!

I may move on to a private or semi privately run instance in the future but I'm definitely a fan of kbin over Lemmy and the current state of self hosting kbin is a mess. When things have gotten better on that front I will look at moving on and expanding the fediverse.

Centralization is a result of social behavior. People naturally gravitate towards the place where others are.

Like, the internet wasn't centralized by corporations. It was centralized by the users. And it will always happen. It's a very predictable pattern of human behavior.

I won't downvote bc I think this is a genuine question OP is presenting, but I disagree with people splitting quite yet.

People will naturally find their pockets as the Fediverse grows. The benefit is that it's already decentralized, so you have that option.

The cynic in me screams that this post is to stir up FUD because someone at BigSocial is shitting their pants right now... :D (/s?)

But yes, you have some valid points but stretching too thin is not going to get us anywhere and will just result in people leaving due to lack of content. Remember that divide and conquer is a valid tactic too, so having many small instances isn't going to magically shield us from Bad Things (TM).