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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I like the idea of FreeBSD, but I can't see the point of giving up on my Linux conveniences to switch over to it. What advantages does it provide, and are they worth the switch, considering I'm losing a lot of software, as well as any semblance of gaming?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The advantage is that you can rebrand it, close the source and sell it as your invention.

Btw, did you know that Apple invented Unix?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apple invented Unix?? What the hell are you talking about?

Ken Thompson, Dennis Ritchie, Brian Kernighan, Douglas McIlroy, and Joe Ossanna at Bell Labs developed and invented Unix.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

[email protected] ;)

This was a joke about how Apple just takes open source stuff (in this case, they used FreeBSD as a basis for MacOS/iOS/iPadOS/tvOS/watchOS), rebrands it and then claims it was theirs.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Where do they claim it was theirs? macOS is FreeBSD at its core, but Apple has built a lot of shit on top of it. It’s absolutely not FreeBSD with a name change.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

What advantages does it provide

ZFS, mostly. There are some smaller peripheral things (like much better manpages), but these days the big one is probably ZFS. Zero licensing conflicts allows it to be an integral part of the kernel.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE switched to the OpenZFS implementation[1]:

The ZFS implementation is now provided by OpenZFS. 9e5787d2284e (Sponsored by iXsystems)

So no big differences now, except for the licensing.

[1] https://www.freebsd.org/releases/13.0R/relnotes/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you explain the differences between the license like I'm five?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Linux is licensed under the GPL, which is described as "copyleft." The GPL requires that if you want to use GPL code you need to license your modified code under the GPL.

FreeBSD is licensed under the BSD license, which is a permissive license. Basically as long as you stick the license statement in your documentation you can do whatever you want with BSD-licensed code. This is why commercial uses (like the Wii's OS) tend to be BSD-based rather than Linux-based.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

The source code used to be cleaner and easier to customise if you needed something specific. And if you leaned that way (of closing up everything), the license is much more lenient of course.

Other than that, nothing much. It's interesting for the sake of it, but bsd has lost the Unix race (which isn't necessarily a good thing).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

If you're losing software and are no longer gaming, much of complicated driver compatibility issues from peripherals like GPUs won't matter to you.

FreeBSD is the *nix OS which is stable like Debian but doesn't use Systemd ~~like~~, similar to distributions like Gentoo/Antix/Slackware

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

On AWS Firecracker

How about on baremetal?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

Best I can do is 8 seconds.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago

"You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like."

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wanted to comment on this being a cool read, but there's too much happening in this thread that is beyond my knowledge. But anyway, cool that this guy is optimizing things like a mofo.

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