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I'm told you enter the full URL into the search function, but that doesn't work. Is that normal or an exodus-related issue? I'd like to look at Kbin stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Unfortunately, kbin instances are unavailable via Lemmy right now due to hosting problems on kbin's side of the equation (see Kbin Codeberg #101). This will probably be fixed soon, so keep an eye on that issue for progress.

Even if it were working, however, there's actually something of a required ritual that you'll need to go through when subscribing to an external community which your instance is not already federated to (i.e.: communities where nobody on SDF is currently subscribed). Here are the steps you'll need to follow:

  1. In the community search, paste in the following pattern: [[email protected]](/c/[email protected]) (e.g.: [[email protected]](/c/[email protected]))
  2. Press [Enter], wait for the search to finish (it's normal to see no results)
  3. Wait a few minutes
  4. Refresh the search page and search for the common name this time (e.g.: "Technology")
  5. The community should appear and be available for subscription now

FWIW: There are plans to improve this unintuitive workflow in the future (see Lemmy Backend Github #2951).

If these steps don't work, it's possible that the community may simply be too new. You'll sometimes need to wait an hour or so after a community has been created for it to start being available on external instances.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks! That's very helpful.

FWIW fedia.io seems to be working fine, it's just kbin.social that's Cloudflared.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

ah, thank you for the kbin bug link!

I was going crazy trying to search for kbin 'magazines' and couldn't figure out why it wasn't working

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My observation, if the user puts in the correct URI for an unknown community, like the example https://lemmy.sdf.org/c/[email protected],

Instead returning "404: couldnt_find_community", it should show something that starts doing the process of discovering the community.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Really? I just got a blank page back I'm pretty sure.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've seen chatter on Mastodon that kbin will view lemmy communities, but lemmy doesn't correctly view kbin magazines. I don't know if it's accurate or not. I have been able to join lemmy communities on other servers, however.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have heard this too, with the added (and unverified) statement that kbin.social is behind Cloudflare right now, which is breaking federation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmm, if that was the case I'd expect one of these other kbin instances to work. I'm trying [[email protected]](/c/[email protected]) (kbin link) with no success.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could the m/community instead of c/community be breaking it, maybe?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oop! https://lemmy.sdf.org/c/[email protected] is in SDF Lemmy now and it pulled the thumbnail over, but it looks like it's still syncing? That or we can't actually sync kbin content.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Neat, so it's just a search problem. [[email protected]](/c/[email protected]) reached the same way actually does show content.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ahh, that's the one I was trying.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Note that you enter the URL as !community@host.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there a user guide somewhere? This should probably be in the sidebar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Would probably be a lonnnnng job for an SDF instance owner to write. However! Such things often do well when crowd-sourced. If Lemmy has wiki-like capabilities, we could all pool our knowledge there. (Mine is meager because I'm brand new, but still) If nothing else, we could use the existing en.wikipedia.org to collectively create the document there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So [[email protected]](/c/[email protected]) should at least return a result (with all filters turned to all)?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure it will; as I said, I have heard that subscribing to kbin from lemmy is not currently working, from users on mastodon. (I just tried that search and it indeed did not work, for me.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Typically when I search for a full URL, there are no hits. But then I reload the search results page, and find the community I was looking for, and see that the instance has been added.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

To be clear, it's working better for me now too.

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