News

Use it on the dumbass ambulance crew.

Full time software developer and part-time volunteer first responder here.

It sounds to my developer brain that the car was in “pull over for the emergency vehicle” mode and the presence of the ambulance with the flashy lights and woo woo noises basically stun-locked it so that it just sat there waiting for the ambulance to pass.

As for my first responder brain, In EVOC (emergency vehicle operations course), you’re taught that, when in emergency mode, you should TRY to pass on the left because that’s what people expect and you don’t want them doing unexpected things while you’re speeding, passing, and caring for a patient.

BUT… you’re also taught to use your goddamned brain, and the “pass on the left” thing is a guideline, not a rule. If traffic is stopped and you have a safe path, you take it.

This driver was being overly dogmatic about how they pass traffic, and their stubborn refusal to pass on the right contributed to the mortality of their patient.

However, “stupid” isn’t “criminal”, and there’s no way to say that the patient would have survived even if they had teleported to the hospital - emergency medicine is just a “do your best” situation, and bad outcomes happen. Tbh, though, it’s called “the golden hour”, not “the golden minute and a half”, and it’s pretty unlikely that 90 seconds would have made a huge difference in the outcome. On top of that, care doesn’t begin at the hospital. Care begins when the medic first begins assessing the patient. The medic will be working on stabilizing the patient in the back of the rig even while the driver sits there behind a stun-locked-npc car with his thumb up his ass.

So, if I were this crew’s chief or shift lieutenant, which I’m not, but if I were, I wouldn’t fire the driver, but they’d definitely get written up for it. I’d strip the driver of their driving privileges until they went back through EVOC again and wrote “I will be flexible in my operations and not be a dogmatic dipshit on an emergency scene.” 1000 times.

So the ambulance driver had the ability to get around and didn't? If that's the case then the ambulance driver has a serious problem (legal problem).

If the video clears them, why decline to share it publicly?

The video, which Cruise declined to share publicly

Fuck this.

Unclear what to do with pitchfork:

Use it on the human driver:

"a pedestrian hit by a vehicle"

We don't know if the self-driving cars might have delayed the ambulance. What we do know is that a human driver hit a pedestrian so hard that the pedestrian was killed.

The question I see unanswered is whether the victim had survivability under any circumstances.

I wonder if the ambulance was running lights and siren, and if the vehicles passing on the right tried to give way to the ambulance?

Sure, and maybe next time they won't be able to go around. What then?

The fact that this could and probably will happen again and again is enough to make these cars entirely indefensible. The techbro cunts experimenting on the unconsenting public with this broken technology should be charged with vehicular manslaughter for every death caused by their driverless cars.

Fuck cars, regardless if driven by humans or robots.

So you're saying robotaxis are no better than cars driven by people? Why not just let the people keep driving?

What if there was any other vehicle stalled there? Wouldn't it have been the same situation?

Also would be great if we had dedicated zones for autonomous vehicles that are clear of any obstacles, confusion or situations that even a normal driver could get stuck in.

So… they should program it. Have a remote override for situations like this… something