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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

An AI model trained on posts from Nazis. What can go wrong?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Headline: Cyber Hitler Bans Jews from the Internet!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

that's just the latest twitter news in a few months

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How useful would an AI model be if it were trained on the content from a social media platform full of nazis, russian trolls, and bots?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't we kinda see this happen already? I don't remember which product it was. Was it one of Microsofts trial runs?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it was Tay. She went super fuckin racist.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, that's the one. Who could've seen this coming, right?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

haha yeah. I can only imagine what an AI trained on twitter would be like. Way worse than Tay I think.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Worse in the insidiously-pushing-dark-agendas manner for sure, and an altogether much greater threat to humanity. It couldn’t match Tay for straight up insane evil— she was loudly supporting eugenics and more— but that makes it more dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I guess...full of sh*t.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I knew that there were never any Russian trolls on Twitter, and that Twitter has often hinted at its users worshipping and never criticising NATO, and that Snowden's leaks told us Twitter was deep in with US government, NOT Russian government.

So why do USA trolls often claim lies about the existence of Russian trolls on Twitter, which was debunked last year? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28vylXZvec4

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://piped.video/watch?v=28vylXZvec4

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source, check me out at GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey! You must be new to the internet. Here’s a tip:

Just because someone says something is debunked - even if that someone had a YouTube channel with a ton of followers - doesn’t mean it’s actually debunked. People do, in fact, just go on the internet and tell lies, and it’s pretty common.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's gonna be the dumbest AI in human history

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Yea, but it would be good at right-wing slogans and racial slurs.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Just public data, not DMs or anything private," huh?

Obviously Elon Musk considers everything we post on Twitter as his personal wealth... It's true though, since all our personal data is stored on his servers, and he can scrape whatever he wants.

It's time to step into a decentralized peer-to-peer social media where we will no longer be exploited by Twitter, Facebook, or whatever platform, and there are no more central servers to gather your data without consent.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

True, and Anonymity is important as well, I am suppose to recommend Mastodon, etc. But they do require Email address as an identity verification.

Nostr https://www.nostrapps.com/ or WireMin http://wiremin.org/

Both of them are decentralized social media, and does not require personal info to register.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Well not really. You are very welcome to set up your own instance and own your data.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Some measure of accountability for getting an account needs to be kept in my opinion. Pure anonymity lends itself to things like 4Chan emerging, which is an intersting place to be sure but not exactly conducive to a reasoned discussion. Pretty hard to send some pictures to aunt judy if everyone is just anon.

[–] Whirlybird 1 points 1 year ago

Anything you post in public on Twitter is obviously public data and anyone can do what they want with it. This has nothing to do with musk “considering everything we post on Twitter as his personal wealth”, it’s public data you voluntarily provided.

Decentralised doesn’t mean that companies can’t gather your data. Lemmy is decentralised but your data is all over the place on many peoples servers. This one comment of yours could be on 50 different random peoples servers.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Joke's on them, I never made a single post.

Twitter was shit from the very beginning.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm still calling it twitter

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I call it Xitter (pronounced as Shitter)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

It's more like a non-privacy policy and should be called that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Go ahead, train on me not writing a single thing and just retweeting exclusively Pokémon drawings from Japanese artists.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

"xAI". The success of this AI will be measured whether it changes its name or not.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


As Ivanovs points out, X owner Elon Musk has ambitions to enter the AI market with another company, xAI.

This leads him to theorize that Musk likely intends to use X as a source of data for xAI — and perhaps Musk’s recent tweet encouraging journalists to write on X was even an attempt to generate more interesting and useful data to feed into the AI models.

In fact, Musk has previously stated that xAI would use “public tweets” to train its AI models, so this is not much of a leap.

Musk also filed suit against unknown entities for scraping Twitter data, which also may have been for the purpose of training artificial intelligence large language models.

Musk essentially confirmed the privacy policy change, responding to a post on X to clarify that the plan is to use “just public data, not DMs or anything private.”

X no longer responds to press requests with a poop emoji as it had following Musk’s takeover of the social network.


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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow they chose to semi-hijack a common acronym for explainable AI (XAI), for a new company that’s likely unethical. Why do companies do this, hijacking existing words with benevolent meanings then eventually dirty them?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's called marketing, and it's cancer

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Great idea. Trainning an AI model on twitter totaly didn't go terribly wrong the last time it was tried. /s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's going to end up similar as when an AI was trained on 4chan. Mega racist and homophobic but also hyper sensitive because its Twitter (not gonna call it the new name)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If the data is public, can't anyone use it to train anyway? (besides rate limits to get the actual data, of course)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I see this as a challenge to the fediverse? Our platforms are open and amenable to being used for AI training. Mastodon is full of human made image descriptions, some of them quite detailed.

Does the fediverse want to do anything different? Closed / private / human only spaces?

[–] Whirlybird 1 points 1 year ago

It’s public data so what’s the problem here? If you don’t want it out in public don’t post it in public.