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Would they have all still fought against him?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thanos was a fucking stupid character in the MCU. The human population is currently doubling every 61 years with a growth rate of about 1.14%. Assuming similar numbers across the galaxy, he didn't do anything except cause suffering. He's a very poorly written villain.

I guess to stay on topic, they would have looked at population growth, and determined that his plan was moronic, and fought him.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I agree that Thanos is dumb, but he's well written. He's supposed to be stupidly short sighted; that's his whole deal. He experienced a problem with his own society, and invented an idiotic solution that was readily rejected (rightly) by his own people. He saw the downfall after that and said to himself that the cause was that they didn't listen to him.

When he grew powerful enough to do it, wanting nobody else to suffer the loss of their entire society like he did, forces the universe to participate in his little exercise with little to no regard for the losses people suffer, nor the long term consequences of his plan.

He has no ability to think beyond the small scope of time that encompasses his plan.

Sure, resources will be far less scarce for people in the short term, but, as you've correctly pointed out, in the long term, he's simply delaying the inevitable, which is why his statement near the end of endgame is so poignant: "I am inevitable". Then he snaps, and nothing happens because Tony stole the infinity stones, proving he's not inevitable and underneath it all, he's not thinking of the inevitable outcome of his plan (which is only delaying things at best, and is an actual war crime).

He's convinced himself so throughly that his way is the only way that he refuses to even entertain the idea that there may be other solutions, which bluntly, other solutions may have an actual effect in the long run (more than 100 years out).

He's meant to be fanatical about it being the only option and unable to be convinced otherwise. He's written perfectly for that role.

Other means of population control should be considered, but he'll have none of it. I see it as analogous to so many humans in real life that deny long term damages to the planet and to future generations because of short sighted "freedoms" or benefits that they may reap in their lifetime. A whole "fuck the distant future for immediate gains" kind of mentality; something that, quite bluntly, is the prevailing mindset of most capitalist businesses. It's all about maximizing the present and damn the consequences.

Thanos is a literary tool to describe problems we have right here and right now, on a fundamental level. People do convinced that their way is the only way that they will do immense harm to their fellow humans (and/or other living beings) just to do what they think is in the best interest of themselves and others, without considering evidence or any discourse that may prove that their way may not work out long term.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That's because they tried to make him some sort of noble villain in the movies when he was just horny for Death in the comics and wanted to impress her

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Would they all still exist?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It wouldn't shock me if Hawkeye disappeared. But then again who'd notice?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Clint isn't a stupid guy. In the show, he's hard of hearing, which some people might mistake for being dumb if they saw him on the street, for example. But remember how scary he was in The Avengers. Guy could shoot an arrow into the wind and knew it would blow up an engine. You know there's some crazy subconscious math going on there. Also, his counter-terrorism rampage in Endgame wouldn't have been nearly as successful if he wasn't a great planner and tactician.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also, his counter-terrorism rampage in Endgame wouldn’t have been nearly as successful if he wasn’t a great planner and tactician.

I hadn’t considered this. You’re right. This is a man with no powers whatsoever. Meticulous preparation was essential. A mindless killing spree would have been suicidal.

This makes that scene much more unsettling.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If anything, I’d say eco terrorism is a far more defensible motivation than eugenics.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Keep in mind that people are part of the eco being terrorismed

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Avengers would have been much better prepared. T'challa, Hank, Janet, Dr Strange could have all helped plan the response. Bucky, Sam, Hope, Peter Parker could have all helped execute the plan.

Also Scott since he wouldn't have been trapped in the QR.

Drax and Quill are still goners. The rest probably aren't snapped.

Vision, Gamora, Loki, Heimdall unchanged since they died before the snap.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

would’ve still fought him because their job isn’t to stop evil, it’s to maintain the status quo

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

See this is why I hate when people are like "just watch this 20 minute long video!" The video just restates what you said in one sentence that took me 5 seconds to read. It states it over and over again, slowly, interspersed with reading long quotes, slowly, for 20+ minutes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

They all would have been wiped out.

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