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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Are people really that angry? I mean I know we live in a crazy world, but this seems a bit much.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, this loser has a persecution fetish, nothing more.

It feeds his narcissism to think people care that much offline.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay let's not kid ourselves. I know reddit is quiet right now but the entire website is angry at them. Their inbox is likely full of death threats. People are searching for their employee information.

I get that it's fun to hate on spez and all but people have hunted employees down for less before. So yeah, while this is a justified protest and I dislike spez, we should all want to keep reddit employees safe right now. Most of them aren't the problem.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It's hard to wrap my head around the idea of sending death threats, people walking around with so much hate filled up that they lash out at the most detrimental things.

It's a corporate decision, protests (subreddits going dark) and constructive critiscm from the userbase is the only way to make the voice heard.

I'm happy that another platform (Lemmy) existed which is more suitable and designed like the old.reddit.com layout to migrate to. Otherwise this ordeal would really suck.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I don't think so. This is coming from the same guy who claimed that the Apollo dev tried to extort him for $10 million and threatened him, when the Apollo Dev had the phone call recorded and proved that he only offered to sell the company.
He's feeling threatened in trying to make the users participating in the blackout look bad.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anything for that IPO, I guess..

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Has there ever been an IPO of zero? Because it wouldn't surprise me at this point...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I feel like WeWork got close.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After the 30th, we might see it. They haven't exactly handled this situation well, so I don't have high hopes for the transition when they do finally enact their pricing changes.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Pets.com went bankrupt within 12 months of its IPO. It was ahead of its time.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

No, this is just how an out of touch rich dude thinks whenever anyone has criticisms of him or the platform he thinks he owns.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, but like saying the appolo dev is blackmailing them, spez is trying to twist the narrative

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He even claims that around a thousand subreddits went dark. It was 8,000. Hundreds are already pledging to stay dark indefinitely, including huge ones like r/aww and r/videos.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't be surprised to see sockpuppet accounts starting / running some kind of "r/videosnew" and "r/awwnew" if they stay offline for a longer period of time

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

spez will probably just instate new puppet mods and forcefully reopen them.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I imagine he personally is under immense pressure right now, and that probably isn't doing too well for his decision making. It's either that or this guy really just doesn't like the users that would be enabling a very large payday for him and their investors. Makes no sense either way.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

No it's just the common tactic from companies when there isn't a good reception to one of their decisions. Then they just cherry pick some comments from Twitter or whatever and set the stage.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All it takes is one crazy guy. If you think about the size of reddit it makes sense that there is at least one who is willing to harm others

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The incel terrorists in Canada were both on Reddit, iirc. There are some incredibly fringe communities on Reddit. And Lemmy, for that matter.

So, yeah. Agreed. If 1 in a million is violent, that's enough people for someone to get hurt.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well, considering people are doing bomb threats over bud light right now...

Sad. Sad. Reality.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right, which is why I can understand it as a "just in case.." type thing, but I really haven't seen anyone all that upset about it, not to the point where they're threatening violence against Reddit staff (which wouldn't make sense anyways, since this is clearly a decision made by the executives, and not regular employees).

Strange times.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

The people pissed about bud light are on Facebook.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

It's not like he was nice to a Trans person once. They probably won't get bomb threats.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"We're being persecuted!!! Violence!!! Give me sympathy!!!!!!!!!!! I'm not the bad buy here!!!!" -Spez.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Very appropriate typo. He is indeed a bad buy as well as a bad guy.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

pr strategy, it’s the user’s fault, make investors and employees fear and hate the user mob and not the poor defenseless company

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But as defences go, it's a pretty braindead one - the very people Spez is trying to demonise is his userbase. Why would you invest in a company that has such dangerous users?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The attitude he seems to have bothers me so much.

"[this blowup] will pass" He doesn't even seem to take this whole thing seriously. "Give it two weeks, those suckers will have forgotten all about this". It's insulting.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm afraid he might be right though. Lot's of people don't really care and seem to be fine with the official app...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

The key thing will be what the moderators do, they're the ones with actual leverage. Reddit depends on them doing unpaid labor for the site to function, and while the average user probably just uses the official app and site, the moderators are much more like the third-party app users and often depend on the same or similar tools to do their job. If they take mass action, they could really disrupt things much more than just a temporary blackout. Mass replacement of them would be a lot of hassle, and either lots of money to hire staff to do it or lots of time for fresh new mods to make people angry as they learn the ropes.

But, then again, mods do tend to like the control they get over their little fiefdoms, so I'm not all that optimistic that enough will choose to throw their rings into Mount Doom. We'll see though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I don't really care, I'm off Reddit either way.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I CAN DREAM

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Yeah, you can't have it both ways:

  1. It's nothing, it'll all blow over, they'll get over it
  2. They're so angry our employees are in physical danger

I suspect that the truth is he's feeling a lot of hate just now from the reddit community and he wants the employees to identify with him rather than with the users.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

„The only long-term solution is improving our product“ What I don’t get is in what way these changes are supposed to improve Reddit. Especially considering that how pissed off many volunteers that Reddit absolutely needs are. Such an unlikeable twat…

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't understand, what users really crave are live-streams, chats, trending topics and avatars. That's what reddit is all about /s

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not just avatars, NFT avatars!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

„The only long-term solution is improving our product“ What I don’t get is in what way these changes are supposed to improve Reddit

That's just normal corpo-babble.
Companies always claim to put the customer first and the turn around and increase prices or monetize previously free features.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why would anyone want to be seen wearing Reddit swag after that whole shitshow? I would be embarassed to be working for them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

i couldn't imagine being seen in public wearing reddit swag in general, much less after the API announcement

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

High-ranking corporate individuals really are so very out of touch with the situation on the ground, aren't they? It's insane they're wording things as if it's the people's fault for simply not understanding they want more money or that they literally LIED about being blackmailed. It makes me sick.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

He's worried that his employees might get poached now. If I worked there I'd be thinking about leaving and if I was trying to hire at another company I'd be trying to steal whatever talent they have over there.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

“Oh no! Everyone is angry at me/us. Quick! Act like a victim, make the users were screwing over the bad guys!” u/spez probably

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

"Sick retro swag! I remember Reddit!"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

God, he’s so fucking stupid.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

"~~hanz~~ spez, are we the baddies?"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

"We absolutely must ship what we said we would" Yeah right, everything else they have promised never led to anything, but this, this we have to push through :p

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

oh my god his unbearable arrogance knows no bounds

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

He's the one that has to worry about a project mayhem castration, not the employees lol.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

nothing says "swag" like the reddit logo

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