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The "app" also has extra built-in user tracking capabilities, beyond the dreams of what they can deliver with a mere webpage.
Firefox/Fennec with add-ons is really so much of a relief.
Tho I don't use (classic) social media which afaik enforce apps the most ... I think that battle for web pages & privacy is lost anyway, at least until we as a society decide to go FOSS.
i have a deep and irrational hatred for the fact that some people call computer programs "apps" now of days
I regret to inform you it's joever
"Some people"? The operating systems themselves call them apps now.
And it's really not that unreasonable. What the user thinks of as an app could be more than 1 program. It makes sense to put an abstraction between users and programs because lots of sophisticated software use separate programs that the end user doesn't care about, just the whole.
I don't think anyone's saying we should only refer to each individual executable file. Just that 'apps' arbitrarily replaced the word 'program' with absolutely no change in definition to make it sound New and Marketable tm.
The l33t w4r3z d00dz were calling applications 'appz' since at least the '90s. Then there was that brief period where Apple tried to claim "app store" was short for "apple store" so no one else could say it..
Actually the proper nomenclature of the time was 'warez'.
The browser represents a political statement that the rendering of the web page ought to be under the control of the user. The app is a capitalist reaction to that statement.
Browser communist 
Apps capitalist 
use firefox
The web browser is under the control of Google. The app is just a thing actually designed to run on your computer that can actually utilize its features.
And then the "app" "actually designed to run on your computer" is actually just chromium
"This website would look better if you downlo-"
NO! YOU WILL FEED ME IDIOT FASCIST TAKES FROM MY LOCAL CITY SUBREDDIT ON MY MOBILE BROWSER, AND YOU ARE GONNA LOAD IT!
Having to keep using the "desktop site" setting on mobile Firefox so that every website can just work without needing an app.
It's so fucking anti-user that you can't just permanently force the setting or have it on a per-site basis
Even worse nowdays is shit like react native apps. Some of them are so slow and buggy it's unbelievable. I installed one of these apps for a supermarket chain (only because they said I'd get free stuff if I install their app, and free food is free food), and it said my balance on my supermarket card was NaN. And it scrolled though the catalogue of groceries at around 15 frames a second. To think this is the delivery and purchasing app for the biggest supermarket chain in South Africa!
"Download our app"
fucking Electron
> browse the web
> "I'm sorry, this feature is only available on our app"
> talk to customer service: "is it an Electron app or native"?
> they don't understand
> "It's a good app sir"
> download app
> it's fucking Electron
I am waging protracted people's war against installing apps and creating accounts in order to do things that shouldn't require a fucking app or account. I have used my browser's console to scroll wepbages with JavaScript when shitty sites would disable scrolling to force me to sign up. Death to enshittification.
Obviously, have the uBlock addon, but then make sure all the 'Annoyances' boxes are ticked, and even better install the webAnnoyances ultralist - https://github.com/yourduskquibbles/webannoyances
Far from perfect, but it will override a lot of website's faux disabling of your scrolling, to save you the trouble of F12-ing.
I swear by uBlock, gonna need to check that list because as I run it now, there is the occasional soft wall that requires manual F12 intervention. Thanks, comrade.
oh yeah it's so fucking cool we had a perfect system for representing hypertext and then they added multimedia (cool) and interactivity (okay) and eventually just decided that it should have a cross-platform language for sending any and every possible computer application over the internet and simultaneously it become so totally unusable that developers needed 999,998 different frameworks to make anything with it and they just gave up and made shitty reduced functionality versions for toddlers and called them "apps" and now the web browser takes up 14GB of RAM and no one can ever program a new one again unless they have 20 years and a billion dollars.
you dont need frameworks at all, devs are just lazy and execs are happy to shove garbage code out at breakneck speeds
Here in the outskirts of the Bay Area, charging stations each have their own specific bazinga app and each app is hostile to each other app and expects space on your phone to charge your vehicle. It fucking sucks and there's no reason for it except 
responsive web design has brought this back a little. I can do almost everything I need to on my linux phone natively or through the browser. it is a hassle tho. frequently need a user agent switcher, etc
Responsive web design is obnoxious. If I'm using a desktop user agent on my phone, that means I want to see the desktop site, even if I have to zoom and pan to see everything. I don't want the site's CSS to decide from my screen's width that it's a mobile device and show me the mobile version anyway.
I think the pure concept of responsive web design is that the same exact content is shown at all resolutions, but with different layout. The issue is that exposing that information lets them discriminate between desktop clients and mobile clients.
remember when "apps" were called programs?
The modern push for PC 'Apps' are just PC 'Secret Browser Windows' because a good portion of apps nowadays are just webpages packaged with 30MB web engine.