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Will people here use/try Meta's #threads when available? Would love to know the reasons or if it would be just for fun/curiosity.

The amount of data collected is insane imo.

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[–] [email protected] 261 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Definitely not. I didn't come to the Fediverse to be under social media companies again.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Almost same take here - but I also understand that there may be some people which would use/try it for whatever reasons.

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[–] [email protected] 187 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The amount of data collected is so insane that it won't come out in the EU for now. And I like it that way.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Now these are news for me, thanks for the info.

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[–] [email protected] 127 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I stay the fuck away from anything Meta/Facebook, so absolutely not.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish more people would adopt this approach.

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Everything I don't like about twitter combined with everything I don't like about Facebook? hard pass.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 year ago (24 children)

Thanks to @m0bi13 who posted this breakdown for context :

Data collected by #threads:

  • Health & Fitness
    
    
  • Financial info
    
    
  • Contact info
    
    
  • User content
    
    
  • Browsing History
    
    
  • Usage Data
    
    
  • Diagnostics
    
    
  • Purchases
    
    
  • Location
    
    
  • Contacts
    
    
  • Search history
    
    
  • Identifiers
    
    
  • Sensitive Info
    
    
  • Other Data
    
    

Oh fuck no. The very first line is basically a HIPAA violation. It gets worse from there. We require less disclosure from Supreme Court Justices and Presidential nominees.

This is a trainwreck waiting to happen - even if Facebook itself doesn't abuse this level of power, you know that bad actors within the organization will. And once the information is collected, you know that tyrannical governments all over the world will be falling over themselves to get access to the data. This is a stalker's wetdream, an Orwellian orgasm of truly grotesque proportions.

Keep the Fediverse from Zucking. Just say no to Threads.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It’s not a HIPPA violation. That law doesn’t apply to companies like Meta beacause they do not fit the definition of an entity that the law was written towards. This is just people freely giving away their personal health information and nothing more. From your own link:

The HIPAA Privacy Rule establishes national standards to protect individuals' medical records and other individually identifiable health information (collectively defined as “protected health information”) and applies to health plans, health care clearinghouses, and those health care providers that conduct certain health care transactions electronically.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago

not a fucking chance

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago

No webpage + only phone app interaction = NO, THANK YOU.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nope. This company is on my blacklist and I won’t try anything they make.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

My brother in Christ, you're asking people on Lemmy if they're going to try meta spyware

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, fuck that and fuck them

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

They should call the instance "metastasis" cuz that company is fucking cancer.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

Let's see...

  • I despise Facebook/Meta.
  • I don't want to help Mark Zuckerberg get more money.
  • I was never fond of Twitter, either - an interesting concept, poorly executed.
  • If I did want a Twitter-ish post feed, there's Mastodon.

So no, I won't be trying out the Zuck's attempt to eat the Muskrat's lunch. Sounds like a gross spectacle no one asked for.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

People on Twitter are already trying it because Twitter has been shit.

Someone in my circle created their account and already deleted it. Their explanation was a FAQ screenshot for Threads saying that it doesn't matter who you follow or who follows you, the algorithm will show or hide things from you based on what they think you will enjoy and there's no way around it and you also can't sort by new.

I mean, are companies really paying attention to user needs? Lol

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

Not a chance.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No! - I'm not a dumbfuck. Mark Zuckerberg once said people who trust him with their personal information are dumbfucks. I have never had an account on any of his platforms, and never will. If something I'm using integrated with his products I'd just stop using it. Just no!

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Just seeing the list of privacy data collected is enough to make me baulk. I barely ever use Facebook or Twitter as is, I'm not touching that shit with a 10ft pole.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

"Did you mean: Give away your personal info?"

[–] dbilitated 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

no definitely not installing it or opening an account.

I'm not against federation tho, I'd be in favour of showing people you can get all the same content through another channel. defederating means that people will have to use it if there's content from someone they like on there. I don't want to give people a reason to install that shit.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

I would have more privacy waking naked in the street

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think Carrot said it best…

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't try meta's anything.

I wouldn't try a meta fire extinguisher if I was on fire.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

absolutely fucking not.

I think we need to cut them the fuck off here. It's obvious Meta sees the Fediverse and Mastedon as a competing threat to its communication ecosystem and wants to EEE ths shit out of ActivityPub

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

No, and I will go one step further by blocking the Threads domain assuming kbin itself doesn't choose to defederate from it.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Hard pass. I’m shit tired of being advertised to and packaged as a product at the same time

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

No.

  • As you pointed out way too many data permissions
  • While I'm not in the "everything for-profit companies does is inherently evil" camp, Meta has done some sketchy stuff.
  • It's mostly microblogging from what I can tell, and that's best in smaller instances or instances heavily moderated / filtered to feel that way which Threads likely won't be
  • It's name, even though it won't really be mixed threads like the name implies, will mess up momentum for the Threadiverse to mean AP actual threaded apps, and terms are hard.
  • I'm sure their TOS, privacy policies, or moderation policies aren't going to be any better than other Meta apps.

That being said, I do like:

  • They are planning to federate via AP unlike Bluesky
  • Meta is trying new things other than VR.
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

lol no. It's not even legal in the EU.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

We need to let meta die slowly, so no.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Privacy-wise, I already use Facebook, WhatsApp, Messenger and Instagram, and I'm pretty sure that Mark Zuckerberg knows everything that he'd ever want to know about me. I largely believe in the conspiracy theory that Meta actively listens in on users in some way to serve them ads and targeted content, even if the evidence is circumstantial at best.

Despite this, would I still use Threads? Probably not.

Microblogging isn't my thing. 140 characters is nowhere near enough space to articulate your thoughts and it feels like the site was originally designed around SMS text message limitations more than anything. I also don't like how the only way you can get any genuine interaction on places like Twitter or even Mastodon is to be a celebrity.

I do agree that we should collectively defederate Threads much in the same way that everybody on the fediverse collectively blacklisted Gab, not necessarily as a fuck-you to Zuckerberg, but because a flood of Instagram normies would completely cripple other instances with traffic.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah. No need to as Mastodon and Lemmy exist, and I have no desire to give Meta data.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Definitely not.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

The last thing I need in my life is to have my privacy debased by another data collection app disguising itself as social media, and even less to participate in another echo chamber shitshow like Facebook or Twitter. Hard pass…

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Tangentially-related, I'm actually really excited to use Threads's federation with Mastodon to bring interested friends and family over to Mastodon. If you get all the same benefits (connection, more people) with none of the ads or privacy downsides, then it seems like a no-brainer to join Mastodon over Threads.

But to answer the question, no. I run my own Mastodon (and Lemmy) server. I'm kind of all-in on the fediverse.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

It's just a cover for another data-collecting-machine made by the big players. **No thanks! **

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Absolutely the fuck not. There's no room at the Inn for whores like me on Meta apps ¯\(ツ)

I was permanently banned from Instagram a few months ago because I'm a pornstar. A lot of industry folks were banned around the same time. In retrospect, I wonder if they were trying to clean up the app ahead of the launch of Threads.

I had experienced temporary bans before over the years, we all had. But losing my account and then having my new account banned again within two days, all without posting anything even approaching NSFW was fucking awful. It really hurt a lot of us financially.

So fuck no, I'm not going to spend my time creating content and IP, posting photos, and engaging with my fans on their new platform. I doubt I could join it anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

If they're going to make money off my data, then they can pay me to use Threads.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Nope. If I wanted something similar to twitter, I would use Mastodon, not Meta's privacy hell.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

That's like getting picked up from Catholic Boys Choir by a white van with "Free Candy" spray painted on the side.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Nope. I have a barely-used Instagram account from before the sale to Facebook. I keep it in hopes that, someday, a regulator will force them to sell IG or spin it off. I have zero interest in having anything else to do with Facebook or any of its subsidiaries.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I can't see any reason for me to ever try it. I've got plenty of social media to deal with already, and this doesn't seem to be offering anything new or interesting for me. Plus the creepy permissions even keep me away from joining temporarily out of any curiosity I might have.

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