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As a healthcare worker I hear this joke a lot and I just don't care for it. It's insensitive, unprofessional and rude. Yes we all get that "it's just a joke, bro" but making light of vulnerable patients getting hurt is rotten behavior.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I think it's usually said in the context of pushing people to use safety equipment and be cautious while they work but in a way that attempts to be casual and put the responsibility on the person who's working.

I've never heard that said to someone who has been injured.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I couldn't put it better myself. If you don't care about yourself enough to use your safety equipment, then will you please do it for me?

This seems like an overreaction on OPs part, maybe due to a misunderstanding.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

This is the answer.

Levity can be a great tool for not being dramatically serious about everything such that encounters regarding safety engagement are less confrontational than they otherwise would be.

This, btw, is exemplary of the PNW low level anxiety stuff I refer to when referencing the increased hum anxiety draped over the region as a whole.

I’m not labelling it as good or bad. Just acknowledging that it exists.

OP is right, but so are you and I. Context and individuals involved matter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Oh for sure It's all the time in the hospital. Nurses saying that to elderly patients about how if they fall down it means a lot of paperwork for the nurse.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can see why you wouldn’t like that, it is unprofessional to be saying it to the patients. I could see telling them to be careful because they don’t want to end up staying in the hospital longer but the paperwork thing should really only be said to employees.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They commented on my comment as well and it seems to do with their field of work. They provided a decent explanation

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Is it said in a serious sense or in an attempt to be lighthearted about warning them of the dangers of falling without seeming depressing or patronizing?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I used to hear it a lot in nursing homes and in home health.

But it was a serious thing attempted to get the patient to use safety precautions. You'd be surprised how often an otherwise stubborn person would agree to do so to prevent inconveniences to someone else.

I don't agree that it's a good idea for anyone doing it like that, but a family member genuinely trying to get someone to be safer? I can't object to that.

The problem with professionals doing it is that it violates ethics regarding patient choices. We're supposed to give good information, allow informed choice, and accept what the patient chooses, so long as they're capable of doing so. We aren't there the manipulate patients into what we want them to do. We aren't there to make our jobs easier, either, though I can get how facility workers could get burnt out watching stupid, preventable injuries to patients making dumb-ass choices.

In nursing homes, I really only did skilled units, so my patients were mostly severe dementia or non-ambulatory to begin with. Home health, it was mostly end of life care, so the only thing I'd ever insist on is them letting me do my job and be with them. Be crazy, do stuff you shouldn't do, but let me keep it from being an injury, or find another caregiver. Someone at end of life, idgaf what they do to make the most of it, I just wanted them safe and intact at end of shift.

[–] Taleya 14 points 1 year ago

...yeah i'd clarify that it's being said to patients

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have to admit that the paperwork is a pain in the ass, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well shoot I’m sorry guys. I thought this community was a place for sharing unpopular opinions but I guess I misunderstood

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, but they are right... what's more relevant to upvote than a fitting post to the contextual sub?