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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I do not get how people get blackmailed with their own nudes.

Like, who gives a shit? I see myself naked all the time. And now you have as well, blackmailer, so if anything I should be getting money from you.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s India not Denmark you dingus. It doesn’t matter if you don’t care, other people care they will ostracize you or worse see it as an excuse to rape you. Like many women get raped in India for simply breaking social norms like traveling without a male chaperone.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then maybe we should be addressing those behaviors?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes.

Your house is burning. You should be replacing the building materials with something much less flammable, but in the meantime, maybe you might be wise to pour some water on the fire.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can ruin your reputation or be used in conjuction with other social engineering techniques to eicit fear. It is also very intimate and personal, and shows a private side of your person that may not be intended for others. Examples of threats could be sending them to in-laws, emoyeers, your whole office, the school were your kids attend. Even without any really intention of distributing it, the threat is enough.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sounds like we just need a Share Your Nudes Week to help destigmatize a very ordinary part of modern life.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While i agree in the idea of destigmatizing sex, consent (or lack there of) is a key part in why this is so traumatic, without even considering the negative and wrongfully directed anger often targeted at the victim by their community.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

yeah having your bodily autonomy removed for any reason is a traumatic experience.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I agree. I call myself a closet naturist because I'm all for the human body just being a human body and not ridiculously hyper-sexualised. But I'm also a sexual abuse survivor and that same hyper-sexualisation makes me very wary and anxious around people who are not also naturists.
I've been assaulted way too many times WITH clothes on to trust the general population who can't comprehend that a naked body =/= sex and an open invitation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Remembering this from Community.

"It's Vietnam!" And he laughed. They had no idea what they were in for.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now imagine said nudes being sent to your mum, your employer, your kids, etc, and the knock-on effect it might have on your life.

That is why they pay.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have this crazy strategy that has been working so far: I don't take any nudes.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you read the article at all? They're faked, but that's still enough to cause harm.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they're fake, then I won't care. But of course, like it was said elsewhere, I live in a place where nude pictures are, at most, an embarrassment and not a threat to my life or physical wellbeing.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You won't care, but your employer might, to the point where they fire you. Your partner might, to the point where they leave you. Your overbearing family members might, to the point where they put out an 'honour killing' hit on you, or do the deed themselves.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He/she already said it. It is not a problem in the country/society he lives in. "Just an embarrassment", they said.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Like I just pointed out, 'something embarrassing' can have much dire consequences when put in the wrong hands.

It only has to go to someone with no chill and they will make the problems. The place they live in might be chill, but that doesn't mean there will be zero consequences.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I live in a place where nude pictures are, at most, an embarrassment

What part of above sentence don't you understand? If their society (neighbours, employers, friends and family etc.) doesn't care about nudity, what kind of dire consequences can you have in the wrong hands? If they were photoshopped into doing something illegal, it's not something that can be avoided at all. So you "caring" doesn't work either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It only has to go to someone with no chill and they will make the problems.

What part of the above sentence don't you understand?

If their society (neighbours, employers, friends and family etc.) doesn’t care about nudity, what kind of dire consequences can you have in the wrong hands?

The problem there is that you are assuming that literally everyone in their lives is chill with this kind of thing. Maybe that is true if you spend your entire life in one particular bubble that happens to accept nudity, but that is true of basically no one. There is always at least one prude that would try to raise hell in the name of Christianity or some other such religion or other shit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Add 'dont use your computer or phone while naked' to the list. Spyware riddled machines with webcams can also be how these nudes come about.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Alternatively, if somebody threatens you with nudes, release your own! Nobody's going to blackmail you, if you're a nudist! Jeff bezos energy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My mum

Well she'd know how my transition is going.

My employer

Doesn't seem professional for my employer to be looking at such things. Shame on them.

My kids

I don't have kids but if they were underage then that's a mail-ordered crate of ACME-brand Yikes bad ideas.

(I want to be clear that, even if I am a Dingus, I'm only one who is shitposting.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And such quality shitposting too!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those weren't nudes of herself, just of her photoshopped on someone else's body.

Do you think a fake bank app would ask for nudes for verification purposes?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Indian society is nuts:

She has been ostracised by neighbours in the community she has lived in for 40 years.

"As of today, I have no friends. It's just me I guess," she says with a sad chuckle.

Some of her family still don't speak to her. And she constantly wonders whether the men she works with are picturing her naked.

A picture of your head photoshopped on some chick's body? Why is that embarrassing for anyone over the age of 13? I would just assume they were hacked. It's embarrassing for whoever sent it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sadly common worldview among societies with "culture and history". Ironically this culture of monogamy and being so sexually prude is a result of Western colonisation. These are Christian ideals, not necessarily the ideals of Buddhism or Hinduism (Remember Temples of Kama Sutra, anyone?). While the colonies have stuck with 1800s, the colonisers have moved on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That means the issue is the culture, not photoshop.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I cant imagine the pain and suffering this is causing people.

I also dont understand why so many people trust their smartphone or 3rd party cloud services to keep their nudes secure.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The photo was doctored by the collection agency.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A blackmail scam is using instant loan apps to entrap and humiliate people across India and other countries in Asia, Africa, and Latin America.

Astha knew her mother had been getting some weird calls and that she owed somebody money, but she had no idea that Bhoomi was reeling from months of harassment and psychological torture.

Most were in their 20s and 30s - a fireman, an award-winning musician, a young mum and dad leaving behind their three- and five-year-old daughters, a grandfather and grandson who got involved in loan apps together.

Rohan gained Chaurasia's trust, and together with a journalist posing as an investor, arranged a meeting at which they asked him to explain exactly how the scam works.

When asked for comment, Li Xiang told the BBC that he and his companies comply with all local laws and regulations, have never run predatory loan apps, have ceased collaboration with Jiyaliang, the loan recovery company run by Liang Tian Tian and Parshuram Takve, and do not collect or use customers' contact information.

Additional reporting by Ronny Sen, Shwetika Prashar, Syed Hasan, Ankur Jain and the BBC Eye team.


The original article contains 2,450 words, the summary contains 189 words. Saved 92%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

This is an awful summary. Try again, bot!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

“Saved 92%” Yeah, and half the story too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

....This just raises questions about what the article about, it is not a summary.