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Oh but I’m sure we can trust the news coming out of the US buddy. Such a great brain

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Next post:

Radio Free Asia is an independent news organisation. Its website even says so. But I suppose you just collect your paycheck from Winnie Xi Pooh to assume everything that isn't Chinese state propaganda is a lie. Let me guess, you probably think that photo of an Asian street food vendor doesn't clearly demonstrate the CPPC is cooking down millions of Uyghur genocide victims bones to make a broth to send too the starving Russian neo-nazis about to lose Moscow to Ukraine right now? Grow up and stop embarrassing yourself.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

12 years ago was 2011 when Ghaddafi was overthrown. I wish that too, buddy.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

The most Reddity Redditor that ever Reddited. nerd

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (8 children)

What is the reason liberals are so obsessed with "both sides" and le nuance

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It absolves them of any responsibility to seek change or take action of any kind because everything is unknowable

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

There's a possibly fake quote from Robert Frost that goes "A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel."

It's perfect

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It allows them to feel superior to both sides and support the status quo without sounding too conservative.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It's very important for them to find a middle ground between "doing a genocide" and "not doing a genocide."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Makes them look intelligent without having to do any real research or analysis

Also they're against radicalism in general so both sides have to be bad

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It is algorithmic and requires zero effort while still allowing you to feel slightly more smart than the totally-biased person who only listens to one side.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's a weird pivot from when they yell at us for "both sidesing" things because we think democrats and republicans suck, not realizing we are criticizing them both from the left.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who is the "someone who saw it coming" supposed to be? I'm assuming based on smuglord tone that they have hillary-apartment in mind, but that timing doesn't make much sense unless they were #WithHer while obama-drone was running for his second term. Am I missing an obvious shibboleth here?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably fucking Romney.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Jesus fuck, that's even dumber.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This smuglord but needs to be like 50% larger and with red eyes or something. Even then it wouldn't be able to be as smug as that LIB

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

The eyes could be spinning Bitcoin gifs, animated.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

che-smile

Si, shoot this guy

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

It’s funny how you can trust everything coming out of Ukraine’s media, but for some reason, this time both sides bad

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

MOST human beings aren't super smart good boys, but I sure am!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If I passive-aggressively and sarcastically declare that most people are stupid, I get to be the smart one in the room by implication! because-of-the-implication

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'm not sure where they ever implied that news from the US can be trusted, that seems like a bias from you. To me this looks like someone frustrated with all news and media, just simply talking about Israel and Palestine because it's current. Or is that the problem? If there is additional context that I'm missing, please tell me.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When they say this in response to Israel and the US lying they are in fact defending those lies.

“Whataboutism” gets thrown around a lot but this here is pure whatabout ism.

Israel and the US caught obviously and repeatedly lying on a massive scale? THIS PROVES YOU CANT TRUST PALESTINE EITHER.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

soypoint-1 whataboutism soypoint-2

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good bot

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love that this bot was designed for defederation, and now it's just us triggering it ironically.

Whataboutism

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really don't understand this... To me they seem like someone who believes all media can't be trusted and is telling lies, now responding to idk what, likely a post about Israel lying. Just venting their belief that all media can't be trusted. Doesn't seem to me to be defending either lies or taking a particular side, or even engaging with the topic at all very much, in fact I could believe they saying this to literally any topic where "media has lied/news are fake".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They'll all acknowledge that both sides politically bad, but at the end of the day, they're leaning on one side of the political fence or another, regardless if it isn't in the mainstream political binary as of now, because the same person would most likely use this response on mostly one side, while "coincidentally" sharing most of their political views on the other opposing side

In short, liberal 'neutrality' self-superiority and political equivocation....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think self-superiority is a feature of being liberal or anything, I see plenty of that everywhere, also here. That's just a human thing.

And yeah, I guess I understand that people do have a political leaning and naturally try to argue that even covertly/unconsciously, however I really didn't see it in this particular screenshot, that's why I'm trying to figure out if I'm missing something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I guess it depends on who the poster mostly repeats "all news are biased" to.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oppa gangnam style

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Op, op, op, op

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lemmitor

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not familiar with Hexbears images, how they are used and what they mean.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy + Redditor (Usually democrat-aligned, but also somewhat orientalist and hawkish in a modern sense)

We use this to refer to Lemmy.world, who tries to make a new Reddit out of Lemmy, a Marxist Leninist-adjacent federation of communities...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So in the end, that means he's accusing me of being a typical redditor, trying to make "a reddit" out of Lemmy?

I'm not sure I know what that means, I'm just saying what I'm thinking. As far as I know, I don't have a particular agenda, especially not trying to change Lemmy, I'm just trying to participate in what I see. I'm interested in what I see here, however with my current understanding, it seems like I'm just not seeing what everyone else seems to be seeing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In the most direct terms I can give you, Israel lies more often and is the greater aggressor. To equate them is to make Israel seem better than they are, even if the exact words you're saying is "both sides are lying." It's a false equivalency that trivializes the bad guys and muddles the whole situation. It's punching down.

It's similar to saying all lives matter in response to black lives matters. It's an otherwise harmless statement that in context expresses a malicious political leaning. In this case, saying one cannot trust Israel nor Palestine is ignoring Israel's historical context and the struggle of Palestinians.

Imagine if I said both slaves and slave owners are spreading unreliable narratives about slavery. That would be malicious, wouldn't it?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now I understand, thank you :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

No prob. Feel free to ask us anything in good faith

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's because this is the excuse and cop-out you see thousands of times when you're a communist dealing with liberals. When liberals are eventually forced to confront that their sources lie about a particular topic, they don't admit they were wrong and adjust their behavior to think critically about those sources in the future. They throw their hands up and go "Draw game. If my source is wrong then yours can't be right. You didn't win. Everybody has a bias, you can't trust any government." and then 2 weeks later they'll send you the same source to tell you why China bad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In that sense I understand. I didn't get this exact vibe from this post, but with context I see how it could be. I just wouldn't assume by default that that's what the person that made this post is about, though it's definitely possible.