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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Typical capitalism. At least there are other competitors. I hope AMD and Intel can take advantage of this news and undercut Nvidia maybe.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nono, they raise prices with parity such that they’re still technically minimally cheaper.

That being said, I don’t think AMD and Intel have similar game streaming services. It’s pretty much GeForce Now and Xbox Cloud streaming as the big dogs.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Do we need cloud streaming? Honestly.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do we need gaming?

It's not a need thing, it's just more options for people that want it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Options are great, but generally speaking companies tend to sunset options that are less profitable, regardless if it provides a better experience.

Case in point, once movie and TV streaming got popular, selling that content in physical or even digital form died off but it didn't die completely. Plenty of people still like to own the media they pay for, plenty of people still like physical media collections that can never, ever be taken away when a server gets shut down. Having that option is great, too.

But it's a less profitable option. So, to spite what some want, certain content is just streaming only now, while the prices rise. And that's the new world we allowed ourselves to be shepherded into. While we were blinded by convenience, they discreetly shut the door behind us, and now there's no going back (without piracy).

So yes, game streaming itself is a great option to have for many. That's not the problem.

The trajectory is the problem.

It's also worth pointing out any direction that furthers our dependence on the ISPs not being awful is asking for trouble. For example, remember when Charter was allowed to acquire Time Warner Cable and become Spectrum? They promised regulators they would not impose bandwidth caps for 7 years, and as of today it's been 7 years and 30, days.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nein! - Doch! - Ohh!

Of course a new service only stays cheap until they reached critical mass. Same with gamepass and every subscription services. That's why I try to subscribe to as little as possible. Oh, btw Netflix does again increase prices too.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

100usd for ad free youtube 2034

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

People in this sub were insisting YouTube should be a subscription service (hilariously, "from launch") in the YouTube ad-blocker thread lol

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (43 children)

subscriptions == Corpo tax for the plebs

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Price increases seem inevitable for any service where a company licenses content to stream to customers. GeForce Now is going to be in a constant cycle of content agreements expiring and creators wanting more money, that extra cost gets passed on to customers. Contrast that with just buying a game, buy it once and you're done (generally.)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I don't use the service, but I believe you bring and install your own games. They're just offering a remote computer.

At least, last I checked.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I believe back when it was in beta a good few years ago, it was a remote PC, but now it’s only whatever games are on the service, with more added about every week via licensing them. You do, however, bring your own games, that part is right, just you can only play the ones you own that are licensed to be run on it.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I still support buying a decent graphics card and a game rather than paying a subscription while also buying the game. Their basic plans costs 10 euro per month which is 240 euro for 2 years which is average cost for a decent gaming card. And best part is you own it. You can get NVIDIA 3060 for that amount. Which is amazing card.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

You can get them for $399 here in Canada which converts to 276 euro. Seems reasonable they might be able to find one for 240 in their region.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would rather get rx 6650 xt for gaming primarily. Don't know about RTX 4000 series or RX 7000 series though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Geforce Now is not at all about cost to me. I use GeForce Now because it allows me to play on my laptop, tablet, phone or TV anywhere I have an internet connection. I don't have or want a desktop, and prefer to have a thin and light laptop for travel rather than a gaming laptop.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

89kr/month for Denmark. That's 2136DKK for 2 years of continuous service. The cheapest RTX 3060 right now is 2199DKK. But guess what? I don't have a tower pc. So I would need a CPU, memory, storage, case, PSU. I won't bother putting together a system but if I search the web budget builds are set for around 800USD atm. That'd be around 5600DKK or more than 5 years of GeForce Now. Tbh I think it's not a bad deal.

Besides, as a casual gamer I keep cancelling the service when I don't need it. Right now I'm signed up because I enjoy starfield. I'll probably unsubscribe when I'm done with that. Or at least over Christmas because I know I won't have time to game.

Plus I love the flexibility of streaming to my TV, tablet, phone, laptop.

My biggest problem is that it's neither possible to pirate games nor mod them. Shadow is the solution for that but it's too expensive IMO.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Two years of subscription buys a ps5 or a steamdeck, if one want the "easy" experience

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Buy the hardware so you can offset the costs by pirating all the games

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

Its never enough. Its called unlimited growth. Its why most of us aren't going to live until our natural death age, but will likely perish due to environmental factors like extreme weather, plague, famine, etc. Its gonna start sucking at around 3C.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man everybody's hiking up prices. Where's the money gonna come from to pay these, though? Considering thanks to inflation a lot of us have to use that money for more important things like... food.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

People are still paying these prices. All industries are booming. Taylor Swift’s Eras Tour made like $750M. Most countries went overboard on stimulus spending during covid. To the tune of trillions of dollars. That money is still slowly making its way into the economy. I think it will take years to normalise. In the mean time, US debt is at $33T and climbing fast, meaning we should expect QE at some time in the future, exacerbating inflation further.

The prescribed solution to this mess is crystal clear: higher taxes AND reduced spending. Both. At the same time. Very important. Otherwise we should expect inflation and rates to remain high for the foreseeable future.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

But line has to go up

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

yeah, that's the goal of any company. Why is this news?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I think I saw somewhere that one could setup something similar using an AWS instance with a gaming GPU and some opensource app for the streaming part? Has someone tried that? How does it compare in terms of costs to NVidia's GeForce Now?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I doubt it'll work as well and it's probably more expensive

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are some projects form a few years ago. Mostly using Parsec but there might be more, even open source, options in that area.

But all the DIY solutions will require you to have some knowledge in regards to public clouds. But all-in-all they shouldn't be that expensive as they generally make use of cheap instances and automatic shutdowns. So you only pay for the time you are actually playing plus the storage.

One quick search showed https://github.com/badjware/aws-cloud-gaming but I can't say anything about the working state of that repository. But it should be a good starting point.

Another link https://github.com/LGUG2Z/parsec-ec2

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