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The planet's average temperature hit 17.23 degrees Celsius on Thursday, surpassing the 17.18C record set on Tuesday and equalled on Wednesday.

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[–] [email protected] 167 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think it's important to note that this also coincides with the start of what's predicted to be a super El Nino (we've had a couple of those already). If the model holds true then 2024 will be even hotter than this year, and (again, if the model predictions are right) will shatter all previous records. Then come 2025 or 2026 average temperatures will settle down a bit.

The issue isn't the seasonal or even the yearly hottest temps. It's the overall trend that's a concern (which is what the article is talking about), which are trending up.

Not sure if any of that made sense.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Makes sense, but the idea of a "super" El Nino is a symptom of the same problem. Super implies unusual or abnormal, and it's only getting worse.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well yes, the super El Nino's are part of climate change. They are getting worse each time. All I was saying is that it's not a straight year over year increase. It comes in waves or heaves in a periodic manner.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

right so considering we've been seeing alarming loss of ice mass over the last couple of years and we know that has an exponential effect on climate change. We already hit the tipping point just most people didn't realize it.

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

I used to worry about this a lot, I still do but I used to too.

Joking aside, it's a shit show that us plebians can't really do anything about but I still try. I've driven a hybrid for the last 6 years, I have a smart thermostat to try to save energy, I try to eat less meat more often. I recycle a lot more than most. I even make my own bread and nut milks and many other things which is not only cheaper and healthier (and WAY more delicious) but requires less transport related greenhouse gas emissions than buying premade breads and nut milks. Nut milk is especially better than dairy milk in that matter.

Oh yeah! And yesterday I picked up 10 large trash bags of litter: yesterday picked up 10 large kitchen trash bags

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Bro you're doing more than most of us, thank you.

But yeah, our carbon footprint is minuscule in comparison to corporate footprints. We need them to fucking play ball.

What's more profitable: Exceptional profits for 30 years until civilization collapses, or sustainable profits forever?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Amazing work! I would also like to note that the biggest contributors to the problem are corporations. Individuals couldn't out pollute corporations if they tried.

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[–] [email protected] 120 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"sooner than expected", "tipping point", "nonbinding resolution", "climate scientists warn"

Everything is fine...

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 106 points 1 year ago (18 children)

A toast to everyone in this thread that decided to not have kids! 🥂

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

a toast to everyone in this thread that will be burnt to toast because unchecked greed and capitalism.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (8 children)

This summer is the coolest summer you'll experience in the rest of your life.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Reminds me of a story I read about how if you had a can of food and bacteria got into it, and every day the bacteria doubled in size, and somehow this bacteria had conversations with itself with all of the other bacterias in the can about how long the food would last.

How long would it be before everything ran out?

At some point, the smart bacteria would stand up and say, "Hey, my fellow Amoebas, we've used 1/4 of all of the food in the can! If we're not careful and if we don't manage our resources we will run out of food!"

And the politician bacteria would say, "Don't worry, everyone, we have 3 times as much food as we've ever used in all the months of our existence still in the can!"

And the bacteria was fruitful, and multiplied.

And when they hit the halfway mark the next day, the smart bacteria would stand up and say, "Hey my fellow Amoebas, we've used half of all of the food in the can! If we're not careful and if we don't manage our resources we will run out of food!"

And the bacteria politicians would say, "Everyone! Don't worry! We still have as much food left as we have used in our entire existence to this point!"

And the bacteria was fruitful, and multiplied.

And then another day passed, and all of the bacteria died.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Graphic of ice cover for the Antarctic is truly terrifying

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The world is ending but at least I can post about it

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (20 children)
[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...and decreasing the utilisation of their coal fleet to the point where their coal consumption for electricity is flat and set to start decreasing next year.

https://ember-climate.org/insights/research/global-electricity-review-2023/#chapter-6-country-and-region-deep-dives-china

And their renewable energy share is higher than the US (and most of the world) and increasing faster.

Stop whatabouting and fix your own shit.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

China's also building a lot of nuclear plants and what they claim will be the biggest nuclear plant in the world.

Not that it negates building coal plants, but it's not a simple issue. They're growing faster than the energy industry can keep up with.

And like others have said, the rest of the world is at fault too. Germany shut down all of its nuclear plants, which forced them to go heavy into coal. And not just any coal, but lignite which is considered the dirtiest of all types of coal.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Germany in particular pisses me off so much. No country bought into the fear mongering about nuclear energy after Fukushima as much as Germany did. Shutting down nuclear power plants in the face of climate change is so incredibly irresponsible. For all of their faults, I give a lot of credit to the US and France for not shying away from using nuclear energy.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This is going to be painful for us as a species. I don't think it will render us extinct, but the weather will get significantly worse and we will probably see widespread coastal flooding in this century, which will lead to hundreds of millions of refugees. We still have plenty of time to prepare and to change course, but I fear that we will wait until a global crisis is on our doorstep before we make serious changes.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Millennials had the honour to participate in wars for pil. The coming generations will have the pleasure to kill over fresh water

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Any corrections we make won't take major effect until well after we are fucked. It's why having kids is kind of insane to me because they are going to have a fucked future.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

Maybe I've consumed too much sci-fi over the years. I've always thought the primary goal should be that of making this species a space fairing one. Secondary, they to extend the life of this planet as much as possible. It will die one day, that's unavoidable.

At the present, it looks like neither are being achieved. It's all just going to collapse on itself. Maybe the human population 2.0 can resurface and try again after the planet kills almost everyone.

I feel sorry for the younger generation and my peers with children.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Nope, see the problem is that our civilisation has used all the most readily accessible natural resources, oil, copper, tin, iron, coal, gold, silver, etc. The problem now is that if our civilisation collapses and there's a significant loss of technological capacity, any emergent civilisation may never develop the capacity to reach or process adequate amounts to enable a technological rediscovery. Yay.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Human self-sufficiency in space--- what's needed for any real redundancy-- is for sure >50 and probably >250 years away.

Space settlements are going to need support from Earth for the conceivable future.

Even a destroyed planet from global warming or the middle of the ocean is infinitely more hospitable than the space environment.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Humans treat this planet like we've got someone else to go.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I've known for decades that we humans are failed species that will eventually go extinct. Tbf, everyone are and new species come and go. It has been quite interesting and often sad watching our overshoot while many people have lived in hubris and thought we'd conquer the space one day.

The Earth is one special place in space where life has been born. I have no clue why that has happened but I'm thankful for having been alive and been able to witness larger life cycle in this planet.

I doubt any species will ever conquer the galaxies. It seems that life consumes energy and uses it to grow until it one day collapses.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the coolest summer you'll have for the rest of your life

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Cool. Nothing to see here. Totally fine. It’s not like western Washington is needing AC in the summer every year now for the first time in literally ever.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Should we take a moment to recognise that battling climate change with air conditioning is not a long-term winning strategy??

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Doesn't matter, I'd be dead before the world ends. - some asshole probably.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

literally an entire generation of them

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[–] Nonameuser678 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

All my fellow Aussies we're going to be in for a rough summer

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know it’s entirely coincidental, but we dealt with a heat-exhaustion-approaching-heat-stroke emergency this week, and it definitely made me pause. Summer heat is taking on a new meaning.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was planning on dying one day anyway. Whether it’s from cancer or needing to eat my own neighbor for survival, it’s all the same at this point.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Deep down, it's wild to know that humanity's peak was ultimately undone by less than 1% of the population convincing everyone else that greed is good.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not surprising, I was hoping we'd not hit the tipping point but it's looking grim at this point.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's safe to say we are certainly hitting the tipping point, and then some! Our governments are useless, and these people running these companies and their shareholders, and the politicians responsible for the VAST majority of this mess are devoid of all morals and should be on trial for crimes against humanity.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

The “This is fine” meme has never been more appropriate

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, time to capitulate to Big Energy

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

"I'm in danger..."

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

How is this not a bigger story? What the fuck?? This is cataclysmic. It should be all we're fucking hearing about. Fuck.

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