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Meta/Facebook preinstalls an app called Meta Services (previously Facebook services) on a very large percentage of android devices (I've never used one without it) and while they claim it helps updates and synchronisation between different meta apps, it is very suspicious. Why preinstall it on devices of people who will potentialy never use a single meta app?

Go to your app list/app management and show system apps and find anything with the words "meta" or "Facebook" then turn off network access for those apps (if you can) and disable them. (eg. Meta app manager, Meta app installer).

https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/meta-services-an-android-app-or-not/

https://fixyourandroid.com/about/facebook-app-manager/

https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS20FE/comments/ttmx4t/meta_services/

Edit: Looking around I have found several people complaining that this app is using their ram for 10 hours a day even though they don't use anything Meta. That's even more suspicious.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it can't be uninstalled, try using adb commands from a computer to remove it. I got rid of a bunch of preinstalled stuff on my phone that way.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you possibly go more in depth or provide a source that goes more in depth on how to do this? Very interested in doing this

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Here you go. Hardest part is probably installing adb, there's a more detailed page linked to that in step 2.

https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Now on GrapheneOS on the Pixel 6a. One of the best decisions I made :)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Blame the phone manufacturer, they are the ones that took the bribe to put it there just like with every other bundled crapware.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's not unlikely to be an NSA thing which allows them to access everthing. That sounds paranoid, but Snowden happened so we know they were doing stuff like this 10 years ago:

DROPOUTJEEP .... "A software implant for the Apple iPhone that utilizes modular mission applications to provide specific SIGINT functionality. This functionality includes the ability to remotely push/pull files from the device. SMS retrieval, contact list retrieval, voicemail, geolocation, hot mic, camera capture, cell tower location, etc. Command, control and data exfiltration can occur over SMS messaging or a GPRS data connection. All communications with the implant will be covert and encrypted."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANT_catalog

To be honest, I think we just have to accept privacy is dead. The only real choice that remains is whether to regularly teabag our phones on on the off chance someone's looking.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

No, we don't have to accept that privacy is dead. We need to learn to control the technology around us.

This podcast covers this topic in depth with a lot of practical instruction for what you can do to manage your privacy and security: The Privacy, Security, and OSINT Show

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have a Pixel 7 and it isn't installed.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Of course not. Google is a competitor to Facebook.

But much of the long tail of Android phones bundle Facebook shovelware.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

I always, disable or remove anything to do with Facebook or Meta, & lots of other crap, as a first sweep of a new phone or installation..👍🏼

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the heads up, fuck this bloat/spyware shit.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

One more reason to use a custom ROM. Death to the bloat!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Shit like this is why I use a DeGoogled phone. Get a Pixel and install GrapheneOS or CalyxOS and use open source apps wherever you can, and sandbox any Google Play apps you have to use (banking, etc).

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pixel phones don't have this app. It's not Google adding it to the OS.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

I don't think they were implying that it was. Pixel phones don't have this, but they have loads of other methods of stealing your data. Ungoogled ROMs are focused on complete privacy, not just from google.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fairphone 3, don't have it 👌

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G on PixelOS, also don't have it.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of the pros of using a Pixel! Absolutely no bloat on my previous 4a or my current 7 besides a T-Mobile app that was installed because of my SIM card. Uninstalled that and I was golden.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Unless you don't consider google software bloat.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Honestly, if I have the choice, I will choose Google to keep my data over Facebook/meta. While they will do the same stuff with it, at least they give me good products in exchange for my personal life. I also think Google is more transparent about how they collect their data and they let you pretty easily opt out of most of the very intrusive stuff. I also trust their security a whole lot more than Meta's as they are pretty innovative in that space (like with webauthn)

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

With pixel you can install grapheneos and have no bloat! (or optionally sandboxed bloat)

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All the phones I've had come with bloatware like this, I currently have a Xiaomi phone and MIUI itself is bloatware, the ROM is full of ads. Thankfully there is an "adb" software for Xiaomi phones that allows you to disable or remove this pre-installed malware.

Of the cheap Samsung, LG and huawei phones that I've had they also come with random bs pre-installed that can't be uninstalled without the help of third party software.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

adb stands for "Android Debug Bridge" and it's an Android tool, not specific to Xiaomi.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have a pixel, no Facebook apps installed

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

This is why I avoid Samsung like the plague. Chinese brands atleast let you swap the stock ROM with whatever you like, with minimal effort.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

consider grapheneos. i use it and its been great

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Updoot from LineageOS land!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they're using a phone with Meta services pre-installed, it won't support GrapheneOS

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For those that aren't aware, Universal Android Debloater is a great tool to uninstall/disable bloatware.

It lists out all potential bloatware found on your device and you could disable them with a mouse click. I always use it to debloat my new devices.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem with this app is that it's very liberal on its definition of bloatware. Specially on Samsung devices, it considers bloatware and marks for disable/uninstall many critical apps, including the dialer

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Why am I not surprised

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

absolute bloatware, i just uninstalled this a few days ago

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ugh, stuff like this is why I bought a pixel. I got an s23 for "free" from T-Mobile, and it was so infested with spyware and bloat that even android debloater couldn't get it all.

GrapheneOS has basically made it all worthwhile. I do with I could have multiple (more than 2) profiles though.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

used to have one on my phone, thank god I switched to a custom ROM, shit feels 1000% better than stock

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Not installed on Pixel 5a (with Facebook app) or 6a

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Thanks for sharing. Had no clue and just went and disabled all 3 of these apps of theirs

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Some phones used to come with Facebook pre-installed, it's probably from that. Don't get a Samsung lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Why can't I find any articles about decompiling and researching this one? :(

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

thanks for the heads up.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I find using a combination of AdAway and AFWall+ on android to be effective in blocking a lot of stuff. I run as root.

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