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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

"If you'd like to have abundant, organic healthy food growing in your own backyard..."

[cut to: acres of land nobody can afford, which looks NOTHING like a typical backyard]

Yeah, nah

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, even if you've got a yard, in the typical density around me you are not likely to have 6 hrs of sun anywhere. That said, there's usually something you can grow well.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Oh, for sure! I'm hoping to keep growing a little bit of tomatoes, basil, garlic in my yard. That's why I clicked on this in the first place!

But when the overwhelming impression from the first 20 seconds is "Nothing here is relatable" then I'm not going to learn it by watching this particular video.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I would love to see similar projects done as a collaboration among neighborhoods. Kind of incorporating elements of a community garden and a permaculture garden.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well a "food forest" sounds better than: "Planting non-native and invasive species into an endagered e ecosystem.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really hate the term food forest.

Maybe I'm a cynic. I've got a small allotment in a subtropical area. I've got almost 40 trees planted. I would never refer to it as a forest. I think if you are managing something as a food system, forest isn't the right word. Every tree, bush or plant, on my property is intentionally planted. They all serve some purpose. And yes, it is a system. But forest just like, its not what it is. It seems like a value signal, and pretending you can just put plants out there and not manage them to get results, is just ridiculous.

That all being said, I did get to bring in bananas, lilikoi, papaya, a couple hand fulls of calamansi, enough eggplant to make people avoid you because every time you see them you hand them an eggplant, all this morning. You can absolutely manage a property to be a valuable and productive food system. But everyone I know who manages their land as a 'food forest', they get utterly laughable yields. Food plants, almost all of them, are the product of thousands of years of genetic cultivation, and their productivity is based on being exposed to human management.