Imagine keeping your only copies of files on google drive of all things... do people not know how to do proper backups?
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No, they really don't.
Yuuuup... another reason why I'm glad to have spent nearly the GDP of a small country on my own NAS and backup drives...
time to double check my backups
damn... how could this happen?
Really interested when we, hopefully, read the press statement from them regarding how much data was lost, even temporarily!
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No Backup, No mercy
Two is one, and one is none.
What does this mean?
When you're performing a backup, a backup alarm (like on certain vehicles) should be sounding. That would remind you of what's happening.
Ehh better to nag when something goes wrong rather than expecting me to notice something suddenly isn't there.
...and on top of this, also something that repeatedly warns when a successful backup wasn't performed within the last X days.
As sometimes the issue is that the backup just never triggered to start in the first place.
Also saves time looking into old warnings that have since come good.
Sucks that so many systems don't do this. I ended up writing my own thing that wraps all my cronjobs etc, and sends the exitcode + output to one of my web servers. Every type of "checkin" has an expiry period so that it's marked as an "expired" form of failure if it just hasn't been heard from within X hours/days.
Currently got 870 things doing regular checkins. Really sucked handling that in the past just using emails, which didn't even get sent if the thing didn't run in the first place, and didn't tell me not to bother looking into it if it was already working again since the email sent.
Sweep the single point of failure, Johnny
I wonder if this is just consumer accounts and if workspace accounts are affected or not.
I think in the sysadmin sub some people were talking about data loss in their workspace accounts but I could be delusional
What does "consumer" and "workspace" mean in this context? "Google Workspace" pops up now whenever I start Gmail, so I figured it's just their new branding, but now I don't know what the difference is here.
Paid organizational e-mail with a custom domain vs. free private e-mail with @gmail.com address.
Thanks
I was affected!! It's so strange, first time something like this happened to me, it's like I won a local lottery or something, don't know what to feel now.
All my newer files are still there, but the older ones and all bin, zip, tar and 7zip are not there anymore.
So glad I started the homelab / self-hosted thing a few weeks ago, I have copies of everything locally on multiple storages.
As the stickied post said, we shouldn't rely on cloud storage because X, Y, and Z but good god the whole point of these companies buying out missile silos, building in tons of redundancy, etc. was to prevent this shit. Google's billions are no better than my $500 NAS, it would appear.
Google's billions are no better than my $500 NAS, it would appear.
It probably is still better. They have a billion users. Not saying this is not bad, they have one job and it should not happen. But Ive lost equipment at home for different reasons even though raid, surge protection etc etc. I doubt I statisticly could do better.
Not with that attitude you won’t! You need multiple redundant RAID arrays with their own redundant RAID arrays to assert your dominance over data loss.
Were you using the Drive Desktop client?
Not now, i installed it a couple of times before but never actively used it, nor do I have it installed at the moment on any machine, besides my android.
Do you have any tips or tutorials to begin the homelab/self hosting?
Between this and the ZFS bug, a lot of people are having a bad week
Do we know if there's a way for me to check if I've been effected without trying to download every file I have on Drive?
Believe the files are just gone
Not your keys, not your coins. Wait, where am I?
r/CoinHoarder
I bet there's at least one idiot out their with their bitcoin wallet stored on Google drive, and didn't bother to write down the seed...
Buttcoin moment
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Good reminder to back mine up.
Yup, doing a full local backup of all my Google data now. GDrive client hasn't been syncing for a few days on a couple of my machines for a couple weeks, but everything looks to be there.
It was only a matter of time considering how these companies consider consumers necessary pests and put the least possible effort in their services that are consumer facing.
Im glad I got rid of that stupid ass desktop app but gotta go check my drive now… well i backed up data there just recently, hope its safe in both places
What's really scary is that even if it's just a fraction of a percent, it's still tens or hundreds of TB of what's stored there. *SHUDDER*
News reports coming in.
https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/27/google_drive_files_disappearing/
Makes you go...Hmmmm... LOL
Not really. Google has been getting progressively worse at search for years. The results were probably there, you just didn't see them under all the ads and sponsored results (AKA more ads).
So from the rest of the comments it seems to be the desktop client. That thing is a bit of a dog of a program to be honest. I have a couple of offsite backups. I think I will keep them as archival moving forward and get even more backup drives. Anyone know a good tool I can use on a mac to compare my old backups with my current drive contents to check for missing folders / files? I use freefilesync at the moment to backup my plex library, I suppose that would be a good place to start?
I use the client but only for streaming files, not sync. Maybe I'm in the clear?
i have noticed in 2022 that some of my files have disappeared from Google Drive. It’s happening because of toxic 2020 purge
*its
This happened to me on aws last night. We woke up at all our database instances are deleted
Yep, the cloud is always going to be more reliable than self hosted.
Mhmmm.....yep.....right....
Amazing website. I'm unable to load the last 10 messages. It says it loads them sucessfully but it does nothing.
The people in there are acting like they only uploaded their files to Google Drive? Is "I'll dump all my files on that one place" a common practice? I know it might be mainstream, but one guy says his company's files were only on there..How is something so important to you just backed up into one place? Not even locally? These commenters in that support thread are very odd.
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Never forget,"the cloud" is just someone else's computer.
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