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Using php + sql and maybe a little javascript is generally an OK-ish method that has few strings attached and runs on anything. However there are a lot of modern frameworks that let you do a lot more stuff. There things like django, firebase, blazor, asp net or whatever but what FOSS equivalent to this "next gen" web development stuff should we be using?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As always, it depends! I'm a big fan of "the right tool for the job" and I work in many languages/platforms as the need arises.

But for my "default" where I'm building up the largest codebase, I've gone for the following:

  • TypeScript
    • Strongly-typed (ish) which makes for a nice developer experience
    • Makes refactoring much easier/less error-prone.
    • Runs on back-end (node) and front-end, so only one language, tooling, codebase, etc. for both.
  • SvelteKit
    • Svelte as a front-end reactive framework is so nice and intuative to use, definite the best there is around atm.
    • It's hybrid SSR/CSR is amazing, so nice to use.
    • As the back-end it's "OK", needs a lot more work IMO, but I do like it for a lot of things - and can not use it where necessary.
  • Socket.IO
    • For any real-time/stream based communication I use this over plain web sockets as it adds so much and is so easy to use.
  • PostgreSQL
    • Really solid database that I love more and more the more I use it (and I've used it a lot, for a very long time now!)
  • Docker
    • Easy to use container management system.
    • Everything is reproducible, which is great for development/testing/bug-fixing/and disasters.
    • Single method to manage all services on all servers, regardless of how they're implemented.
  • Traefik
    • Reverse proxy that can be set to auto-configure based on configuration data in my docker compose files.
    • Automatically configuring takes a pain point out of deploying (and allows me to fully automate deployment).
    • Really fast, nice dashboard, lots of useful middleware.
  • Ubuntu
    • LTS releases keep things reliable.
    • Commercial support available if required.
    • Enough name recognition that when asked by clients, this reassures them.
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It really depends on the kind of website. Is it a blog? an e-commerce? a static website? a full blown web application?

Node.js has been a popular backend choice for years. On the frontend there are frameworks such as React, but that's overkill in many cases. Nowadays I've been meaning to look into Hugo and htmx

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Actually, I thought it was a Microsoft product for some reason. Turns out I'm wrong and it actually is open source.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Ruby on Rails?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I personally like FastAPI (python.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@PeterPoopshit I want to try Supabase, especialy PostgREST. Also htmx is interesting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

For rapid development of web applications, you should probably use a web framework in a high level language. Popular examples of such web frameworks: Django (language: Python) and Ruby on Rails (language: Ruby). These frameworks have huge communities behind them, lots of documentation, and lots of educational resources available (such as books).

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