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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seeing non SI units in this context makes me sick.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

They just converted C to the units used in the question, though?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know it’s largely made up for parody but the teacher’s point is true. The “student” showed no work, but rather used an unexplained and underived formula.

But yeah “ha ha—teacher so stupid”

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s the relativistic velocity addition formula, which makes zero sense in non-relativistic scenarios, but it’s useful because it caps the velocity addition to just below c.

EDIT: I misread. Yeah, even if correct you can’t just write down a formula and use it without justifying what it does or where it comes from.

[–] Zagorath 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

even if correct you can’t just write down a formula and use it without justifying what it does or where it comes from

Of course you can, if the formula is well-known and its applicability is obvious. To use a question a bit more at the appropriate level, if the question was "Justin was sitting on a bus travelling at 50 mph. He has been moving for 12 minutes, how far has he travelled?" you wouldn’t expect the student to write "the formula to calculate distance given speed and time is speed x time, therefore distance = 50 x 1/5 = 10 miles".

No, you’d just expect "distance = 50 x 1/5 = 10 miles". Or maybe at most "distance = speed x time = 50 x 1/5 = 10 miles", but even that is overkill if the student has demonstrated understanding via the former.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What is “obvious” is a fine point and university students still struggle with knowing what is appropriate.

For a simple distance, speed, time calculation I would expect a good student to write the units so that it’s obvious by dimensional arguments. Moreover I’d argue it takes little more effort to write eg v = d/t = …

People really underestimate the importance of clear communication and scientific clarity. A student who understands the subject deep enough to clearly communicate it is likely a top student. It’s one thing to cite that formula. It’s a whole other thing to explain its derivation or to understand that for large values of ‘c’, the formula approaches the classical limit. In these jokes, there is never a well-written response because of there were, it would diminish the shock.

Of course the whole thing is a joke, but behind the scenes, the fact that the normal person lacks an understanding of what is actually important here (the ability to communicate) leads to the mess of abilities at the university level.

It’s a perpetuation of the idea that there are these little child geniuses that outsmart their teachers. Then these little geniuses graduate high school, and realise they never actually understood the subject at anything more than a superficial level.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You’re absolutely right. I probably should have specified that in this context, that formula comes completely out of the blue and is not really appropriate, so I feel like in this case it warrants a bit of explanation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I'm more concerned with the fact Justin just committed attempted murder on the bus driver

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

wtf is this floating point innaccuracy

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Oh no it's comic sans

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