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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Who cares? Does he think it can be saved? Like how? Is he going to cut out all the silly useless for the plot stuff? Or is he going to make it longer and worse?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Basically yes. He is going to remove much of the humor and replace it with more real character moments.

As the story is know so far. The company that made the popular trailer was hired to completely re-edit the entire movie, without Ayer's involvement at all. The studio wanted something more like Guardians of The Galaxy. Which was not what Ayer made. So they just replaced him in the editing room, and made the mess we all know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The trailer was garbage. It looked like a 1980s tv show.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, no, no, you don’t understand! He shot an entire 90 minutes worth of stuff that would’ve made up an entirely different movie and it all ended up on the cutting room floor! Pfft. Hollywood.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully it's 90 minutes of Slipknot climbing things.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

90 minutes of people being advised about not getting killed by Katana.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I dunno, I guess it'll be worth one watch.

I don't hate the original version. But it has so many flaws, I've never watched it a second time. Just not a true-to-the-spirit comic adaptation. I never care about direct copying of plots from comics, and I'm very open to modified back stories as well; after all, the tradition of alternate realities in comics is canon.

But they need to stay true to the spirit of the character/s. If they can't do that, then there's no point in it. If you make a Spider-Man movie/show and he's this grim, uber-serious person, it isn't going to work (most of the time)

And that's where the first suicide squad failed. Pretty much, Harley was the only one that was close enough to their "spirit" for it to work. Everyone else felt like they just copied the look partially, then wrote without bothering to read anything about the character.

Comics have that freedom in a way book adaptations don't. Books and comics made into movies trade on the idea of established fan bases being the initial "butts in seats". With books, established fans expect not only the characters, but the plots to adhere to the printed original (otherwise, it isn't the same thing at all, and they might as well just call it a parody and be done). But comic fans love a good alternate reality. But if the company can't be bothered to understand the characters that make such things interesting in the first place, it's a fail.