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In one of the coolest and more outrageous repair stories in quite some time, three white-hat hackers helped a regional rail company in southwest Poland unbrick a train that had been artificially rendered inoperable by the train’s manufacturer after an independent maintenance company worked on it. The train’s manufacturer is now threatening to sue the hackers who were hired by the independent repair company to fix it.

After breaking trains simply because an independent repair shop had worked on them, NEWAG is now demanding that trains fixed by hackers be removed from service.

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[–] [email protected] 297 points 10 months ago (13 children)

This story should be on every newspaper front page right below war correspondents.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago

Yeah, especially in the EU where apparently their laws regarding circumventing DRM might make the people who fixed this the bad guys instead of this comically evil manufacturer who put GPS kill switches on public passenger trains.

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[–] [email protected] 285 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"We didn't add a kill switch to our trains to force the use of our maintenance service, but fuck the hackers that removed the kill switch we didn't implement, and the trains that were hacked and don't have the kill switch we didn't add should be removed from service."

[–] [email protected] 151 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

Dear Reader,

Regarding your recent free and non-profitable un-fucking of our problem, please use the honor system and manually refuck yourself.

Love, Technology Companies.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Someone's gonna figure out a horror movie for this called The Refucker

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 10 months ago

"And how dare those hackers go through all the trouble of finding those (literal) GPS coordinates of train maintenance centers not in our system to circumvent us getting more money."

[–] [email protected] 181 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's awesome. Man, fuck that company. Bricking a train? Outrageous.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Poland ought to ban that company from ever working or operating or selling any products inside of its country and any trains made by that company that are not currently owned by Poland should be prevented from traveling on the tracks that cross through Poland.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago

This is the kind of government intervention I can get behind. This story is so outrageous, it's hard to believe it's true.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Run by fucking criminals. We should brick them like they're The Sticky Bandits

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Better to brick them like The Cask of Amontillado.

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[–] [email protected] 171 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

The person is doing a talk about it in hamburg, germany (37c3) next week. Its on my to watch list because that sounds hella interresting.

Edit : 37c3 list of talks : https://halfnarp.events.ccc.de/#dec115da17562cebafa9ba7a150a4fc607c25c880c03593dcc8da6087c9441a4

[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (7 children)

That actually does sound hella interesting. I'm saving your comment to try to remember but actually look it up in about two years when I scroll back though my saved posts.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Went to subscribe to it until I remembered i don't speak German lol

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

nearly all talks are either in English or have English translations. not sure if they're available on YouTube but you should be able to find everything on https://media.ccc.de

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's 37c3, but thx for the hint. The talk is called Breaking "DRM" in Polish trains by Redford, q3k, MrTick

I will try to watch it on stage, unfortunately still no final schedule available

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nowadays satire can never be as good as reality is.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Steam engine breaks, you can fix it.

Steam engine with digital circuit breaks, you're a hacker, a pirate. DRM was a mistake.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago

But how else could companies make more money off of something you already paid for? Will someone think of the shareholders‽

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This reminds me of the hacked McDonalds ice cream machines. Except the shitty manufacturers won that one.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Sadly they will probably win this as well. Some claim there could safety concerns and it isn’t certified or could damage their brand… time for people’s manufacturing of products? Hehe

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

But if the people controlled the means of production... that would be...

[–] psud 19 points 10 months ago

I think this one might go well. Company preventing a country's trains from being serviced by a third party. I expect that train builder has already tanked their business, but it would be an interesting one to be litigated, the sort of case that can get the law changed

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

SPS became desperate and Googled “Polish hackers” and came across a group called Dragon Sector, a reverse-engineering team made up of white hat hackers.

Hilarious. I hope 404 continues with this level of high quality journalism.

Dragon sector, who they hired, is a security capture the flag team.

https://dragonsector.pl/

Edit: Socials of those who worked on it

https://social.hackerspace.pl/@q3k
https://infosec.exchange/@mrtick
https://infosec.exchange/@redford

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

TIL that [security CTF](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_the_flag_(cybersecurity)) is

an exercise in which participants attempt to find text strings, called "flags", which are secretly hidden in purposefully-vulnerable programs or websites

Never heard of this and I may not be alone in that. Thanks for pointing this out.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 10 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 64 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is good. Someone did that for printers too

[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago (3 children)

And American Weight (?) digital scales. The ones that brick themselves after 2,000 uses because how dare you only pay once.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago

Lol. Always suspected there was a scam there, but every time I bring it up in a conversation - people just call me a conspiracy theorist.

This goes for pretty much everything though. Planned obsolescence is real, but people think it's just the natural way of things.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 10 months ago (4 children)

The anti-circumvention clause is being abused for some years now, it's disgusting.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago

I like how, instead of recognizing that they got caught, now the train manufacturer is claiming this is some kind of dark PR strategy.

If it is, then please show the public that it's a dark PR strategy by explaining the hidden unlock codes and the DRM code!

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hate this fucking planet.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think this is pretty cool. Sure, capitalists are gonna capitalist, but here we have subversive moves in a positive direction.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago

If they required the trains to be serviced by manufacturer they should have written it into a mandatory service contract at time of sales.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

the world's not one's to fix, learn to protect yourself.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Artificially bricked?! Who the hell keeps giving Viagra to trains? Evil bastards.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Spewing bs about how they can't guarantee the safety and other outrageous shit pouring out their mouths as they provide clearly practiced lawyerspeak to squeeze money from public service into their owners pockets which will then be invested probably in war and killing children for profit.

But let's discuss ethics and shit! Fuck faces need to be brought to moral justice for the evil they commit every day of their brainwashed miserable hateful lives where they pretend to not harm people because they don't do it themselves but via money grabbing schemes. One day all of this shit will seem to be as stupid as hitting kids are these days

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