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    [–] [email protected] 164 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    And then everyone praises him for standing up against Google and Apple for crippling/banning third-party app stores, like, cool... but clearly he's just chasing money, not doing it out of the goodness of his heart for us poor gamers

    [–] [email protected] 61 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I hate to break it to you but no company does anything out of the goodness of heart. Its called business

    [–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Pretty much, I wouldn't make such a blanket statement though, non-profit companies exist too

    [–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    And unfortunately many of those still operate as for-profit companies and extract wealth via administrative fees and executive salaries.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

    case in point: Mitchell Baker, CEO of Mozilla corporation(the for profit arm of Mozilla organisation) got 7 million dollars of salary in 2022

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    [–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

    Yeah, that statement was a bit naive, but some companies do business ethically, and some throw ethics out the window in pursuit of profits. The latter is basically a requirement for publically traded companies, and still pretty rare among privately owned businesses. I hate to speak in defense of any company but in my opinion valve has been pretty consistently ethical. Don't take my word for it though, I'm just a random person on the internet, I could have missed some shitty practices.

    Anyways my original point was that while of course all businesses are driven by profit, some aren't driven by it to the exclusion of all else.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Steam comes pretty fuckin close though. Valve has its issues with communication and speed, but since all of its employees are also gamers the company frequently furthers PC gaming in ways they didnt need to because Valve employees just wanted things furthered in that category IE built in modding support, digital games refunds, built in control remapping, steamdeck being a linux machine, etc

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    [–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Sometimes companies can make good business decisions that are also good for the consumers. You're allowed to be happy when it happens

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    They can also make decisions that they say are good for consumers, but are just thinly veiled ways to squeeze more money out of them.

    See: Epic Games Store.

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    [–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

    I'll take it just to watch them fight.

    [–] [email protected] 119 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Never understood the Linux hate from Epic, like why??? What's the point lol

    [–] [email protected] 106 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I think it's more of a gaben hate thing, since the epic store can't really make a dent to steams marketshare, even when they straight up give away games.

    [–] [email protected] 57 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Sweeney is like a man-child who thinks that he should receive higher praise as his more popular counterpart simply because he takes the exact opposite stances on many issues as some kind of underdog. Blockchain economies, the legal gray zone of generative AI, Linux support; and kicking his superiors in the shin and crying to the world when he gets shoved in return.

    Epic will always be a lesser store platform, and Sweeney will always be a lesser man.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

    Sweeney is like a man-child who thinks that he should receive higher praise as his more popular counterpart simply because he takes the exact opposite stances on many issues as some kind of underdog

    This makes so much sense, he banned cryptogames, than after valve banned'em too, he backpedaled and embraced them, lmao.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

    Tim has always been the knockoff version of John Carmack.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

    He should just lean into the fact that he created Jill of the Jungle. That's more respect-worthy than most of the stuff he's done lately.

    [–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago

    Because it makes his job harder. He hates having to work for his money. He just wants customers to put money directly in his bank account without ever having to work for it. Other storefronts? Cheating him out of sales. Other payment systems? Stealing his money. Other operating systems? Making his life hard by forcing him to accommodate for something different.

    [–] [email protected] 89 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I thought the Unreal Engine was running native on linux, last time I checked... 17 years ago...

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

    It still is if you compile it yourself. However the experience is not as good as running it through lutris, wine

    [–] [email protected] 84 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Personally I think it's funnier that he claimed that steam just does not have the user base to justify it. As if he is in complete denial, because he probably fucking is.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    The steamdeck userbase is lower than the mobile/console userbase

    [–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Tbf the mobile userbase is the biggest gaming userbase in the world. I know a couple people in my life who only play games on their phones and have zero interest in conventional gaming.

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

    Eh it's fine bud. At the very least those people now understand a bit more about other gamers and why we do what we do.

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    So is the Nintendo switch, Epic released fortnite on every imaginable platform, including my samsung smartfridge, so let's be honest, the only real reason is that supporting the steam deck is directly supporting the store front they're trying to go against, otherwise the dozen or so million desktop Linux+Deck gamers would have been acknowledged by Epic long ago.

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    [–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago

    I wouldn't expect logic from the company that now acts like unreal and unreal tournament which made them the company they are today don't exist. Like seriously you delisted all of it. What is wrong with you!

    [–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    i dont understand why epic games was praised since they explicitly discourage linux users and cut support for linux and they dislike linux so much they tried to sue google because unlike epic games, they care about programmers and linux and open source...

    [–] [email protected] 58 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    I'm not commenting on the Linux stuff itself. But the idea that Epic sued Google because they "dislike Linux" doesn't make sense on two levels:

    1. Epic sued Google because they want to keep the extra 30% that Google gets from any IAP. It's a simple business decision, without any emotions attached.
    2. Google doesn't care about programmers, Linux, or open source. They might have a long time ago, but not anymore.
    [–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Google doesn't care about anything.

    Ftfy

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Anything but money, you mean.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

    And the shareholders...don't forget about the shareholders...cuz they definitely haven't.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

    They rode the good guys image for quite a bit.

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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

    Pretty ironic considering unreal engine 5 has excellent Linux support. Epic itself was one of the few pioneering companies that actually released Linux version of their games. So why backtrack now?

    [–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago

    They all work in marketing. Except for the three guys who made Fortnite and Frank, who maintains the launcher. Don't go into Frank's office unannounced, he often forgets to wear pants.

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    It's a single flag in the anticheat

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    [–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)
    [–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Tim Sweeney, epic's founder and CEO.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

    ^^ Thanks, but that was meant to be an addition to the meme. In a way of "Tim? Where are they Tim? Tim?"

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

    They had a mac version if I remember correctly and then killed that when they sued apple.

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