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[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago

Expropriate the rails back. They never should have been in private hands.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

It's really unfortunate that we've spent the last 30-40 years deleting a lot of the passenger-specific rail infrastructure outside of metro Vancouver and the Toronto-Montreal corridor. At this point it would be a major breakthrough to even bring a serious passenger service into existence. There's nothing I would like more, but it seems impossible.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Passenger rail needs to be competitive in time, cost and convenience to truly rival car dependancy. It would be really nice to see passenger rail priority and plans to make seperate dedicated tracks in busier areas.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Via Rail is a complete disaster imo. They take the bad from air travel and bring it to rail. They act like their service is a premium luxury one, with huge numbers of staff per train, multiple checks of your tickets, etc.

One example of how bad their operations are (not to get into reliability which is a whole other problem) is that when arriving at a station they ask that you remain seated until the train is fully stopped, and then slowly help people get off. Contrast this with trains in Japan as an example, where the announcement says a stop is coming up soon, please be ready to get off as soon as the train doors are open.

In my opinion we don't just need politicians riding Canadian trains. I want them to travel to Europe and Asia and then come back and suffer on via rail. It's not just new dedicated tracks that are needed, it's a complete restructure of the passenger experience!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I want them to travel to Europe and Asia and then come back and suffer on via rail. It’s not just new dedicated tracks that are needed, it’s a complete restructure of the passenger experience!

FABULOUS idea. Have them ride transit too, and maybe ferries and ensure they take notes as they fly over, as long as it's not a North American airline.

Um, but avoid Sweden. We had a bear of a time navigating the variable train system there at what we're hearing is a very 'cost-efficient' time where passengers suffer for the experience.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It was always nonsense that the freight trains always had priority as they were 12 times longer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Now they're longer still!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Good luck making it through the prairies on passenger rail. Do we even have any stations left? I never see passenger trains. Only freight.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

To my knowledge most passenger trains try and time their crossings in the prairie's so it happens at night. You might be in an area where they always pass through at odd times.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Vancouver to Toronto has 62 stops in-between, including Edmonton but skipping Calgary.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

There is a station in Saskatoon for sure. I'm sure many other places too.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In the year 2000 I looked into a train trip from Vancouver to Quebec City for two adults and and a child. The cost was $10,000.00. We chose to stay home.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Canadian is Vancouver to Toronto and a sleeper cabin for 2 is a few grand I think. Idk how you got $10k in 2000 unless you were booking the night before or looking at the prestige cabin

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Vancouver to Toronto and a sleeper cabin for 2

2 and a child, if I read it correctly. Did you mis-read?

is a few grand I think.

$3400 one-way, booked 3 weeks in advance, as long as one parent suffers a public berth little better than a rack. A round-trip ticket can be under $8 thousand with careful planning. https://reservia.viarail.ca/en/booking

Porter air, YVR->YYZ->YVR 5 hours each way and a $1,500 itinerary for 2 adults and a child.

Idk

Consider your audience: they're over 14.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Jeez I know I was wrong but you need to take the stick outta your ass, buddy. If you can't handle acronyms like "idk" you need to throw your computer in the garbage and live in the woods or something

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe just use words, if you can? Pretend we're worth it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I've got no clue what's going on in your mind to make you decide to be such a cunt, but maybe consider not doing so in the future

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

His journey will probably start by driving past the old rail station in downtown Ottawa (a couple blocks from parliament) out to the boonies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Yep, from the station at the 19 & 417 south of Vanier. Oh! They put up Tremblay station there, in a rare intermodal connection of the type we rarely see out here. (left Nepean 7 years ago so missed the train system they put up using the same failing tech that got that guy fired from Vancouver)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


That journey could be complicated by the fact that passenger trains in Canada are often delayed when they have to give right of way to cargo traffic travelling on the same tracks.

And that's exactly the point: Bachrach's journey is part of a quest to build support for a bill he introduced in Parliament this week.

"Any passenger service proposal must demonstrate that freight capacity to handle current and future anticipated volumes can be preserved, which is essential to support Canada's economy," Brazeau said in an emailed statement to The Canadian Press in October after Via Rail chief executive Mario Péloquin called on the federal government to give passenger trains right of way on the tracks.

Both Bachrach and Péloquin pointed to U.S. regulations that give Amtrak passenger cars priority over freight as a model for the proposed legislation.

He spoke to CBC Daybreak North host Carolina de Ryk about the upcoming journey.

I think the biggest thing right now is that the passenger train has to make way for freight traffic and that has resulted in Via's inability to keep a consistent schedule.


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