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[–] [email protected] 297 points 10 months ago (4 children)

That is probably a slam dunk (minor) discrimination lawsuit. Your circumstances of birth, including the date, are not something you can be judged for.

Follow up with your ID or Birth certificate and ask "Excuse me?"

[–] [email protected] 166 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (16 children)

@ocassionallyaduck

@The_Picard_Maneuver

Not true in the US. They could ban anyone born in the entire month of April, or anyone who "looks like a pot smoker" if they wanted to.

Applicants, employees and former employees are ONLY protected from employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy, sexual orientation, or gender identity), national origin, age (40 or older), disability and genetic information (including family medical history).

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I wonder if an argument could be made that birthdate is a component of your genetic information including family medical history? It is also potentially age discrimination?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

Technically this is discrimination based on age.

They were born 4/20/(year). You could make an argument they are discriminating all people exactly (X) years, 4 months, and 2 days old.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 10 months ago (16 children)

It wouldn't get anywhere in the US. Age is the closest protected class, but only applies to over 40 in the US. Discrimination based on month and day of birth isn't actually illegal.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

I honestly think there's a gray area here and it's worth talking to a lawyer if anything. There are certainly some protections for peoples under 40. Being denied a promotion because you're "too young" is certainly a protection. The catch is you have to prove it.

This case is easy to prove though if there are any laws over this.

Edit: but now that I think about it, this is only really a protection if you're already hired at the place. If you just slam the door on people before they can get in, discrimination seems to be legal.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago

Whelp, time for arson then. Sorry, it's the rules.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago

Just set your profile to @ not US system and your birthday will be 20/4 instead!

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[–] [email protected] 174 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They should not censor the company name.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 10 months ago (2 children)

But then you might realize it's fake.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

What do you mean ‘Company Business Incorporated Pty Ltd.’ Isn’t a legitimate employer?

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[–] [email protected] 136 points 10 months ago (3 children)

"Nobody was born on 4/20 except Hitler. We do not wish to hire Hitler at this time."

[–] [email protected] 68 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago (4 children)

"However, the skillset has been retained in our documentation for future potential expansion into potential expansion."

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 10 months ago (4 children)

What always ticks me off beyond reason in mails like these is the "we genuinely appreciate your time and effort in...."

Fuck. You. With. An. Umbrella.

You don't appreciate shit, you're full of shit, yet you're too shit to even just say what you really want to say: fuck you, we don't give a damn. Because being actually honest might also be bad and cost money.

Companies like there are the worse and should all burn in hell

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Glad that won't happen to me. I was born on January 6th.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Now I'm imagining someone legitimately putting their Jan6 involvement on a resume.

Window Structural Integrity Tester (Jan 6th, 2021): Responsibilities included - unconventional team-building activities, conditioning, navigating unfamiliar territory, and breaking down barriers.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

This can't be real. There are so many red flags this is fake. 1) Everything is censored. 2) GIS (Google image search) lookup only shows reddit and linkedin. The linkedin post is just as vague "learned a colleague received this!" 3) It's too good to be true. it plays on current fears. 4) It's just so dumb.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 10 months ago (1 children)
  1. Of course everything is censored, there is no reason to share personal info like that.

  2. I don't know what Geographical Information Systems have to do with this post, are you referring to a reverse image search like google or tineye or something? What were you expecting to find? The original email with all of the aforementioned personal info? Are you surprised content could be posted to Reddit before anywhere else?

  3. Current fears are justified.

  4. Poe's Law tells me not to assume anything is satirical because there will always be people that stupid or greedy.

And yeah, it could be fake, 100%, but your arguments were really dumb.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

GIS might be Google Image Search in this case, though I haven't seen it abbreviated like that before.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Is this not completely illegal? Dunno about the USA, in the UK age is a protected characteristic and you would be fucked for trying this. If it's real ofc.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is most likely fake.

If this was automated, a company automating rejection emails would never write the reason for rejection. It would be a vague excuse like "not a good fit for the role".

If this was not automated, then no recruiter would be this stupid.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 10 months ago

You should have left in the company name. Shame them publicly.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 10 months ago (23 children)

Wait who puts their birthday on a resume?

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Under GDPR you have a right for your application to be reviewed by a human rather than an automated rejection. Is there something like that in the country maybe?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 58 points 10 months ago (5 children)

On the one hand this is a bad that this happened to you, because the reasoning is completely idiotic.

On the other hand it can be a learning lesson that it's better to write your birthday as April 20th, and never as 4/20.

PS: Please name that company publicly. Maybe write a short mail to a website about tech news, like https://arstechnica.com or https://www.wired.com. You could also try the blog https://boingboing.net

[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago

Seems like they should really keep using 4/20, seems like an effective pre-screening tool for places I don't even want to walk by, let alone work at.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (4 children)

But that's still Hitler's birthday, which is very unprofessional.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Publicity will help prevent such major oversight. This is the problem with using AI for hiring practices instead of real people. Applying to jobs in the 2020s with a college degree, experience in the field, required employment history, and certifications STILL feels like applying for credit cards online with bad credit due to AI prematurely denying many applicants on frivolous grounds before it even gets to the recruiters email/web portal. That being said I don't think this person is the person who received the email themselves they are just posting it here.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 10 months ago (7 children)

If you're in the US and can afford it, Talk to a lawyer.

This is blatant discrimination of a immutable attribute which is a Civil Rights violation.

This is written evidence to that fact.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I really hope OP goes through with the lawsuit because of how funny it is. I want to see it make big news

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 10 months ago (3 children)

“Nobody wants to work anymore”

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago

We genuinely appreciate

🤣You obviously don't you dickheads

[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago

Reminds me of my sister getting in trouble for saying she had to go at 4:20. It was deemed "unprofessional". She has a appointment, lol

[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I fucking despise the fact that AI almost exclusively is responsible for throwing out 99% of all resumes before they reach a human being

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (6 children)

This isn't just AI. AI doesn't care about jokes or memes or "professionalism." This was either a review by an actual human that didn't realize people are born on April 20th or an AI told to reject resumes with that date in it.

Either way, it's a really dumb person that set this rule.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (5 children)

My guess is it's programmed to reject 4/20 anywhere it finds it and the programmer didn't take into account that some values can just happen to be 4/20.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Local company? Send it to the local news. They'll jump all over a reference to end of days AI.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well I'd certainly say they dodged a bullet

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago (6 children)

If that's real and in the US that's age discrimination and you can sue, and easily win, even if they say it's not your age, but the date of your birthday it still would fall under discrimination based on age.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Age is only a protected class if you are 40 or older.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago

Well, I hope that this gets someone in shit.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago

That's embarrassing. Ping their recruitment team on LinkedIn.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago

"Choose a better date to be born on next time, okay?"

[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Historical fun fact: this is why Hitler was rejected from art school in Vienna.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (4 children)

My oldest child was almost born on 4/20, but he decided to cook a little longer.

My wife was so relieved, lol.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (7 children)

LOL! I was born on 4/20 too (and so was Hitler, btw ☹️)

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (3 children)

There are people laughing at them for not hiring someone born at 20th of April , very same folks riding elevators and not finding weird that the 13th floor is missing.

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