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Then-President Donald Trump personally pressured two Republican members of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers not to sign the certification of the 2020 presidential election, according to recordings reviewed by The Detroit News and revealed publicly for the first time.

On a Nov. 17, 2020, phone call, which also involved Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, Trump told Monica Palmer and William Hartmann, the two GOP Wayne County canvassers, they'd look "terrible" if they signed the documents after they first voted in opposition and then later in the same meeting voted to approve certification of the county’s election results, according to the recordings.

"We've got to fight for our country," said Trump on the recordings, made by a person who was present for the call with Palmer and Hartmann. "We can't let these people take our country away from us."

McDaniel, a Michigan native and the leader of the Republican Party nationally, said at another point in the call, "If you can go home tonight, do not sign it. ... We will get you attorneys."

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[–] [email protected] 199 points 10 months ago (4 children)

A crime. Trump was recorded, again, committing a crime.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He grabbed them by the vote certification.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

It doesn't count. It was just a locker room insurrection!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Oh there be some

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Uh, The Kraken Kunt.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Take one down, pass it around

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

Ronna McDaniel was also on the call, making her an accomplice

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Crime isn’t a crime anymore.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

And again pushing other people to commit crimes for him

[–] [email protected] 115 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Another blatant crime that we are all witness to. Another open-and-shut case that we'll still need to investigate for years for some fucking reason.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you come at the king, you best not miss.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If you come at me you can pretty much lock me up for life with zero evidence by just never prosecuting me and forgetting I exist after arresting me because the cop didn't like my attitude.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you acknowledge him as a king, you've already lost.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s a reference to a tv show. The point is he is a powerful, influential, and dangerous person. A not guilty verdict will make him stronger and more vengeful. A careful, foolproof investigation is the best strategy to take him down.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

At least that's the excuse for slow walking every investigation.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 10 months ago

We will get you attorneys

And this was the moment they knew they had to sign the certification and bail out before they were in more problems.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Oh, they can idict Mc Daniel too, lol.

Damn the Republican party seems to be filled to the brim with criminals, don't it?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

There are two overlapping circles: criminals & grifters.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Alright Ronna, you've been facing MAGA pressure for your ouster the past few months, here's your chance to do the right thing (hell of an ask for a Republican) / get payback

[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"We've got to fight for our country," said Trump on the recordings, made by a person who was present for the call with Palmer and Hartmann. "We can't let these people take our country away from us."

These people. Our country. "Us." It's not a dog whistle, it's a bullhorn. If you aren't a white, christian male they don't even acknowledge you as a citizen of this country. They are the "real" Americans and the rest of us are just guests. Guests that they want to evict.

I've got nothing more to add but to exhort all of you to vote next year.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Also, usually, if you're white but not Christian, you're not white to them. Hence Elon agreeing with a tweet saying that Jews are destroying white people.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

Oh that's great news. This incontrovertible stuff is the good stuff.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

Is this another perfect phone call?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Inb4 "he never said not to certify it"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I had hoped Obama getting elected was going to really bolster unification and the progressive isolation and disarming of racist, bigoted, and hateful views that would ultimately enable continued progress through the election of a woman as president to re-establish the US as a beacon of hope and prosperity. Instead we are here.

These racist assholes need to go. Reagan would be demonized by current republicans. https://youtu.be/2R8QxCD6ir8?feature=shared