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Agreed, I have no idea how he thought it was a good idea. I'm sure his PR and legal team tried to talk him out of it - or they're all idiot yes men. Cards were already stacked against him and he just made it all worse.

Then he should have apologized?

spez also just seems incredibly salty for someone that must have everything in life, yeesh

I was expecting some humility, admission of faults and an olive branch.

Instead, the CEO just doubled down and comes to the AMA with canned, smug responses. What a joke.

As people were pointing out on Reddit, in this case I don't actually hope that, because the people who suffer as a result are the users. Tons of useful content that users have created and contributed, other people would just never have access to again.

I -think- that it was to try and keep mods around by ensuring that they won't (maybe) take away their tools.

"Why are you such a bad person?" - because money.

The example I give again, and again, and again is Craig Newmark, founder of Craigslist. Craigslist remains private (which shields it from being gutted by Wall Street vultures, for sure) so we don't know for sure, but Craig is believed to retain a controlling stake alongside current CEO Jim Buckmaster and eBay (which purchased a large stake from an exiting employee).

Craigslist makes about $600 million annually, and I'm sure provides a nice living for the executives and employees there, but has remained true to its core function of providing transparent and easy classifieds posting to everyone (mostly for free, even!)

Notice what happens when an organization becomes a vehicle for profit, beyond simply "self-sustaining profit." Notice how taking on investors practically guarantees that outcome.

I thought Reddit was dead the day Conde Nast bought it. They've survived quite a bit longer! This day had to come. Let's move on.

We can build something that primarily exists to create a community.

We shouldn't give the benefit of the doubt to a man who's shown himself on multiple occasions completely incapable of good faith any more than a hedgehog should give an owl the benefit of the doubt.

yeah pretty much

spez sees 3rd party users as an obstacle between himself and more money. so he will gladly trade the bad pr and loss of certain users if it means that even a small fraction end up switching to the official app and it gains him another 0.1% in wealth for the IPO

he claimed that old.reddit wasn't going anywhere, but we all know that it will be crippled to the point of unusability

That's what I did...
No wait, I'm here now after 13 years on Reddit. My mistake.

I deleted my 10 year old account. I was annoyed for a while, but this is just dumb. Fuck spez

When i read that i was honestly astonished how they expected anyone to invest in reddit at all

In fairness, he posted the recording after Spez repeated something false about the call Selig was on.

@Knusper And, more than that: it shows the typical modus operandi of the Shitty and Pissy Evil Zombie. When people don't fall for his bullshit, he tries to divert attention into something else, an intrinsically disingenuous tactic. All of that with the implicit consent of the company as a whole.

And as a self-fulfilling prophecy this justifies the recording. If you're going to deal with a company that should not be trusted, you need to protect yourself, and that is what Selig did.

He had a monocle measuring to get to

fun to digg through

ICWYDT 😉

Lemmy and kbin are different things which work on the same backend and are part of the fediverse. Similar to how mastodon is fediverse counterpart of Twitter, lemmy is fediverse counterpart of Reddit, and kbin is a unique thing which is more akin to old school blogging sites.

it was a fun ride for the last... almost 17 years. but I'm out on June 30th. I'm happy to make a new home here on Lemmy!

It's probably a good thing, the fediverse will thrive because of it, and we'll never have to worry about the horrible monopoly-on-communities doing something ridiculous anymore.

Let's be real - I don't think reddit is going anywhere quite yet, even after this. It's going to get worse and worse while heavily active users and mods start to leave and stuff, but it's shambling corpse will still exist for a long time in a heavily advertised hell scape with shit to non-existant moderarion.

The truth of the matter is that while the real die hards like us will find a home in places like this, the vast majority will not care. Honestly, I'm fine with that. Most the people coming in to places like that aren't the ones driving good discussion