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[–] [email protected] 119 points 10 months ago (16 children)

Do people actually want this?

Like, I know the megacorps that control our lives do (since it's a cheap way of adding value to their products), but what about actual users? I think many see it as a novelty and a toy rather than a productivity tool. Especially when public awareness of "hallucinations" and the plight faced by artists rises.

Kinda feels like the whole "voice controlled assistants" bubble that happened a while ago. Sure they are relatively commonplace nowadays, but nowhere near as universal as people thought they would be.

[–] [email protected] 101 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Do people actually want this?

Nope. Just like those stupid hard coded buttons on my Roku remote that I have never used.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I think it's those stupid hard coded buttons on my remote that I accidentally press every so often then have to repeatedly try and back/exit out of the stupid thing it launched that I cannot remove/uninstall from my tv.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Do people actually want this?

Absolutely not. But this is the new standard now.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

Maybe I'm a pessimist but this is going to really resonate with the people who are "looking forward to AI" because they read headlines, but haven't actually used any LLMs yet because nobody has told them how.

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[–] [email protected] 116 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (10 children)

This is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard of. I'm not buying any keyboard or laptop that has this key. There's enough Linux-first vendors these days that it's easy to avoid (Framework, System76, Tuxedo, etc). It's time to be done with Lenovo and Dell.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (12 children)

This is the dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever heard of. I’m not buying any keyboard or laptop that has this key.

Which is exactly what people said about the Windows key.

Now it's all but impossible to buy a keyboard that doesn't have it. Worse, most of us use it without thinking.

Sure you can call it Super if you like, and even have a Tux key-cap on it, but there used to be a literal gap between the Alt keys and their Ctrl brethren in the lateral directions away from the space bar, and those days are long gone.

There'll be the niche users who stick with old keyboards without this new key, just like there are the die-hards who have stuck resolutely to the old IBM keyboards and the like from pre-1995, but if you want a new keyboard?

Gonna have to shell out a small fortune for a custom build or make do with that dumb new key.

(Shoutout to the Context Menu key which went as unmentioned in the above as it goes unused in day to day use, despite having been included with its Super cousin since day one.)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (9 children)

I don't see an issue with a "super" key. But what would a copilot key bring that's of any value? The super key already does everything you'd need.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 10 months ago (3 children)

This is Clippy v2.0 and I'm sure it will be just as helpful.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 10 months ago

They've learned from their mistakes, and concluded that Clippy failed because there was no Clippy key.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

at least clippy, for all his faults, had the good sense to be a cute cartoon paperclip.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Oh "great", more crap between Ctrl and Alt.

[Grumpy grandpa] In my times, the space row only had five keys! And we did more than those youngsters do with eight, now nine keys!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 68 points 10 months ago

So you can pressed accidentally activating the fucking AI and make the numbers go up so Microsoft can then go and say to investors look millions are using my AI. So annoying.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 10 months ago

That's funny, because getting an ad for Copilot inside my startmenu was actually what made me go back to Linux after 10 years.

This tracks.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Why? Win+C launches Copilot already, if you want to use it. It's simple enough currently, why change it? This will just make everything worse.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I can't wait to no longer find a keyboard without this key.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Really milking that fad before they inevitably push anything useful behind a monthly paywall.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can't wait to see this gone in the next 3 years.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Oh yeah I remember these keyboards! Good times, that was before the

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I am getting flashbacks to the multimedia keyboards on yesteryear:

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Multimedia_keyboard

Thanks MS, but no thanks, I don't need it.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I love these, it has actual useful keys

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

I will admit that the volume wheel was awesome

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

yeah, the media controls are actually useful.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (7 children)

this kind of shit is what gives AI a bad rep

no one needs this

almost no one wants it

and they'll kill it in a couple of years like they did it with Cortana

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (9 children)

how the fuck can they just decide this

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

I have nothing against the people that are working on AI and appreciate the work they do. However every time I see an article about a company using AI like this I just get the vibe that it's a bunch of middle aged men trying desperately to make things like the "future" they saw when they were a kid. I've seen amazing implementations of AI in a lot of different ways but I'm so sick of dumb ideas like this because some guy that used to watch Star Trek as a kid wants to feel like they live in the future while piggybacking on someone else's work. It's like the painted tunnel in cartoons where it looks like a real tunnel but in reality it's just a very convincing lie. And that's all that it is. Complexity does not mean sophistication when it comes to AI and never has and to treat it as such is just a forceful way to make your ideas come true without putting in the real effort.

Sorry, I had to get that out. Also I have nothing against Star Trek and I used to watch it as a kid because my parents watched it all the time.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

Please don't.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Woo-hoo! Secondary hyper modifier key - can't wait!!!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

Soon we'll be able to emacs the way the developers intended.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

Yay! I petition to call it Duper

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (3 children)

how could it possibly be that urgent that it needs a key dedicated to it

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago

Can't help but think about how Facebook inc rebranded itself to Meta to chase/promote the metaverse fad.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Rebranded Cortana?

Destined to fail.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

Lol fuck off Microdong.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

Time to buy some more of those little Tux keyboard superkey stickers :)

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is copilot another windows app I'll need to uninstall? Thanks for the heads up!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

It should be the reason to switch to Linux, finally, again.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I'm happy as a clam with my 1984 loud as fuck IBM Model M keyboard in Windows.

Think you need a Windows key? CTRL-ESC. I use CTRL-ESC even on modern keyboards.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Can they just make the copilot shortcut on my taskbar permanently fuck off? It appears erratically and I don't seem to be able to get rid of it when it's there.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

They're really pushing this AI shit fr

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So it disappears without Windows?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Just realized my keyboard is 22 years old.

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