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There are no "news", but I'm worried about this business actually. I'm in knowledge that post already exists but I'm not clear at all.

Resuming: Google is trying to add telemetry to Go's toolchain (such as .NET and Dart/Flutter). It also added the GOPROXY environment variable that uses the Google's Go proxy to... Just collect more user data?

I'm a pretty beginner Go dev, but I'd like a toolchain without these telemetry or at least some instruction of how to opt out this thing.

Sorry for repost, but I don't find enough information in any other place. :(

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As long as it's opt-in (which it is), I'm not sure I understand the concern. You'd have to enable it.

Go has been routing module requests through GOPROXY since modules were introduced; it's where all of the mod version is cached, so any time anyone builds a Go package from source, calls are made to the mother ship. Unless the builder is running their own proxy, which is mostly corps, who care less about this sort of telemetry. There are good, valid reasons for the main Go proxy, but it's certainly also a valid concern that the Go core dev team is utterly deaf to.

In any case, the only thing that's new is the telemetry which, as I mentioned, is opt-in. I don't see any reason for new concern.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So, that means telemetry is optional? How I ensure is currently active or not? Just wanna an explanation. I (as I said) searched about this thing and got almost nothing :(

it’s where all of the mod version is cached, so any time anyone builds a Go package from source, calls are made to the mother ship.

I don't understand it at all. Why I'll need something like that?

Thank you for your response!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why I’ll need something like that?

IIUC it is mostly to avoid placing huge load on the original package host when people download the same package hundreds of times a day in their CI workflow. It also means that Google can take control over the user experience rather than huge issues coming up every time some smaller host goes down or someone deletes an existing package version.

Overall I doubt that this proxy was added as a source of tracking. And the privacy policy on the service is pretty strict: https://proxy.golang.org/privacy. So even though I am pretty wary of Google overall I think this is actually a fairly reasonable decision by them to have enabled by default.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

That's a pretty good explanation about. Care if you reply the source of your information? I'd wanna keep it as reference <3

Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't know what you mean by "the source of this concept".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

~~Sorry my english spell is a shees.~~

I corrected my post

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I don't really have a source. It is just me thinking logically about the system and many offhand comments I have read over time. Other than the privacy policy which I have linked.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised, I don't know much about Go but based on Google's track record it seems like the gameplan is to sell a bunch of user data to third parties and go rich

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lmao Hope you're not right (I mean, I hope no telemetry is imposed on my favorite programming language). But as you said, Google tracking/survillance history say that people privacy really don't concerns him

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can always switch to another language later on if anything goes south, since a lot of the thought process is the same behind the scripting 🤞

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Rust is my "alternative". But I see Rust pretty hard (is a system level programming language lol) and differently scoped.

I like some Go characteristics like garbage collection, simpler syntax, crossplatform, 1 second C bindings, and so on.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you want a good product? [opt-in] Telemetry is the way to get that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Is this a joke?